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[rabidh]

Hi,

 

I've got an LE5 engine for sale - I imported it from the US with about 70 miles on it, and have put around 2000 on it in a VX220 with ITBs. The car's been kept under cover for most of the time so the engine looks in pretty good condition (if a little oily).

 

Because it's a Gen 2 block it's got an oil cooler built onto the side as well - making it quite nice to fit in the VX.

 

A few years ago I had the edge of two pistons break up (I was running it on normal fuel at the time and I think it had been pre-detonating), which damaged the valves in two cylinders. I replaced all 4 pistons (with OEM) and the affected valves and it's been running fine since - although I imagine many folks here will just swap the cylinder head with a non-VVT head and possibly even change pistons so none of that's going to matter.

 

Selling because I've never managed to map it properly with the VVT - and there's so much traffic around Oxford that it just wasn't that fun for me to drive as it was.

 

Includes:

 

Gearbox

Alternator

Almost new starter motor

crank & cam position sensors

 

Doesn't include:

 

Inlet manifold

Exhaust manifold

Wiring harness

Water temp sensor

knock sensor

coil pack

 

£1000 ono

[rabidh]

Anyone? I'm willing to come down a bit on this...

[vocky]

Might be worth splitting the gearbox, starter motor and alternator to sell on their own. What size is the alt 100 or 120 ?

 

just for info,

 

the z22se and B207 cylinder heads bolt straight onto the LE5 block and the block is identical for all the mounting points etc. I have one external trigger wheel left if required, which I kept for myself but no longer require.

[rabidh]

Thanks - yes, I would split if anyone wants anything in particular. I just figured if I could get them all out of the garage in one shot it'd be a bonus, and someone might appreciate being able to build everything up outside of the car. 

 

It's a 120A alternator - I got it from autovaux. If it was recon it was absolutely spotless - looked new when I got it.

[Rosssco]

I have this bottom end with a Saab head and a supercharger in my car - all put together by Vocky - works well..

[jim61]

What level of power output would be safe with this engine as stock bottom end with Saab head ?

[Rosssco]

What level of power output would be safe with this engine as stock bottom end with Saab head ?

 

Some early versions came with standard forged conrods, but most (like mine) came without these (powder forged). Still stronger than standard Z22SE rods, but I wouldn't push much past ~300bhp supercharged, which is what the internet seems to indicate based on use in the US..  

[rabidh]

Is there an easy way to tell which type they are? To replace the pistons I had to have them out and I took some pictures along the way - any thoughts about the attached?

 

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Edited by rabidh, 27 April 2017 - 03:21 PM.

[vocky]

it was only the 2006 and 2007 which had better rods, from 2008 onwards they used the cheaper version

[rabidh]

Just to add to this: [color=rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;]I believe it was from a 2006 car (that's what it said in the ad), so it's possible. I bought the engine in 2008 so it can't have been that new.[/color]

 

The pistons were brand new too, as you can see in the pic above.

[wrich01]

I've a Alfa Brera with the 2.2 engine so it an L61 and I asked a while ago about using the bottom end of an LE5 to make a 2.4.

 

Vocky seemed to think it was a straight swap and therefore have been considering it for a while. I only need a short end though but you'd said you'd consider selling parts separate?

 

Just thought I'd ask on the off chance you'd be prepared to sell the block?

 

[vocky]

the 2.4 vvt cylinder head has zero value, so not worth splitting.

 

I have a spare 2.4 vvt head, it's been stripped of any useful bits and will be going to the metal recycling centre next !

[rabidh]

Yes, I'd sell the main engine block separately, and I can take the head off for you if it makes it easier to transport (I imagine we could get it in the back of a car pretty easily?) - but as Vocky says the head basically worthless on its own so I wouldn't take anything off the price for not having it.

 

I'd go down to £800 for the engine - but realistically I'm not going to get £200 for the alternator/starter/gearbox separately and it'll be a pain to sell them so that's already quite a discount.

 

I'm not sure what the Brera's crank sensor pattern is - it might be you'd need to get an external trigger wheel for it?

[2-20]

I've a Alfa Brera with the 2.2 engine so it an L61 and I asked a while ago about using the bottom end of an LE5 to make a 2.4.

 

Vocky seemed to think it was a straight swap and therefore have been considering it for a while. I only need a short end though but you'd said you'd consider selling parts separate?

 

Just thought I'd ask on the off chance you'd be prepared to sell the block?

 

 From what i know, the pistons used in the Brera are very different so you may also have to find a solution for them.

Have a look for spare pistons for the 2.2 JTS and you will see what i mean.

 

http://www.ebay.com/...0-/221779386544

 

http://www.motorteil.../1/p1240193.jpg

Edited by 2-20, 11 May 2017 - 09:14 AM.

[Rosssco]

They are direct injection pistons, so yep, you'd need those. There were versions of the LE5/9 that had direct injection I understand, but the design of the piston top will vary dependant on engine I'm guessing unless Alfa just grabbed the GM design off the shelf.

 

The 2.2 has a 86mm bore, the 2.4 a 88mm bore so they won't swap over.

[rabidh]

Wow, yeah. The JTS is direct injection? I guess that's to help with the mixing.

 

edit: Bottom end now sold.

[Rosssco]

Yep: https://en.wikipedia.../JTS_engine#2.2   "With the arrival of 159, a 2.2 JTS was also introduced. The engine block is sourced from GM (Ecotec L61). Displacement: 2,198 cc Power: 136 kW (185 PS; 182 hp) @6500 rpm Torque: 230 N·m (170 lb·ft) @4500 rpm"