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[MAP18W]

it makes a plesant change to find him doing that rather than "reading" MaxPower in the toilet 

...... Lobbing Cheese ...........

[caleebra]

Stage 1 increases the power to 210-215 BHP on a standard car with a standard exhaust. The cost is £4750 fitted including vat.

Stage 2 increases the power to 240+ BHP and consists of higher flow injectors and smaller diameter alloy supercharger pulley and a different map. The cost for this is £5175 including vat and fitting.

Hmmmm... *strokes chin* I was planning on buying a house next year, I wonder if I could live in a superhcarged VX?

[Whiteboy]

Stage 1 increases the power to 210-215 BHP on a standard car with a standard exhaust. The cost is £4750 fitted including vat.

Stage 2 increases the power to 240+ BHP and consists of higher flow injectors and smaller diameter alloy supercharger pulley and a different map. The cost for this is £5175 including vat and fitting.

Hmmmm... *strokes chin* I was planning on buying a house next year, I wonder if I could live in a superhcarged VX?

No, but you could live in a tent. I here there is a sale on in the local camping shop.

[MAP18W]

No, but you could live in a tent.  I here there is a sale on in the local camping shop.

Free tent* with every Supercharger Conversion.














* Of our choosing. Please refer to terms and conditions. The management's decision is final.

[cheese-lobber]

Free tent*

I bet you make that offer to all the girls you meet on Friday & Saturday evenings don't you Mark?

Edited by cheese-lobber, 17 March 2005 - 10:19 AM.

[Whiteboy]

and who said boys as well.

[paulf-cam]

Alot of this torque improvement has come from getting rid of the plastic inlet manifold, you can see on the old conversion graph that even with the superchager you get that "2.2" torque bump. However the new conversion has a new alloy inlet manifold with integral charge cooler, which has removed it.

Just out of interest, why do you need a charge cooler on an SC engine?; i was under the impression that you need one on a turbo because of the proximity of the exhaust to the inlet which heats the incoming air, but with an SC its just as normal?

I'm guessing its because the air gets compressed as it gets sucked in by the SC, but how much does it increase temp by?

And another thing those big turbo ears on the VXT, how come you don't need them on the SC conversion?

Sorry for all the questions, but i'm feeling quizical, today

Cheers, Paul.

[Jon]

Alot of this torque improvement has come from getting rid of the plastic inlet manifold, you can see on the old conversion graph that even with the superchager you get that "2.2" torque bump. However the new conversion has a new alloy inlet manifold with integral charge cooler, which has removed it.

Just out of interest, why do you need a charge cooler on an SC engine?; i was under the impression that you need one on a turbo because of the proximity of the exhaust to the inlet which heats the incoming air, but with an SC its just as normal?

I'm guessing its because the air gets compressed as it gets sucked in by the SC, but how much does it increase temp by?

And another thing those big turbo ears on the VXT, how come you don't need them on the SC conversion?

Sorry for all the questions, but i'm feeling quizical, today

Cheers, Paul.

Hi Paul,
a charge cooler is not vital on a S/C engine however when you compress air, that in its self generates heat. On the old super charger conversion we could see inlet air temps, climbing under hard use to 60 degrees. At this time nothing over 30 degrees has been seen on the dyno.

We do not need the big ears, as the supercharger does not generate the same heat that a turbo will, it actually gets no hotter than your cam cover.

[paulf-cam]

Hi Paul,
a charge cooler is not vital on a S/C engine however when you compress air, that in its self generates heat. On the old super charger conversion we could see inlet air temps, climbing under hard use to 60 degrees. At this time nothing over 30 degrees has been seen on the dyno.

Awesome, getting more and more tempted by this day by day...

We do not need the big ears, as the supercharger does not generate the same heat that a turbo will, it actually gets no hotter than your cam cover

Ah, so the ears were for cooling purposes? I thought they were to suck more air into the inlet part of the turbo...

Cheers, Paul.

[Foxy]

shut-up, shut-up, I can't hear you...la laaa lelalaaa la lala laaaa

[nakajima]

shut-up, shut-up, I can't hear you...la laaa lelalaaa la lala laaaa

i've tried this method, it dont work i am now hearing this everyday in my head!!

even when i buy lunch i hear " just think!! all this money wasted on such things as food and water!! when you can have a supercharger!!!!!!!"

i feel so ashamed

[#2177]

Alot of this torque improvement has come from getting rid of the plastic inlet manifold, you can see on the old conversion graph that even with the superchager you get that "2.2" torque bump. However the new conversion has a new alloy inlet manifold with integral charge cooler, which has removed it.

Just out of interest, why do you need a charge cooler on an SC engine?; i was under the impression that you need one on a turbo because of the proximity of the exhaust to the inlet which heats the incoming air, but with an SC its just as normal?

I'm guessing its because the air gets compressed as it gets sucked in by the SC, but how much does it increase temp by?

And another thing those big turbo ears on the VXT, how come you don't need them on the SC conversion?

Sorry for all the questions, but i'm feeling quizical, today

Cheers, Paul.

Hi Paul,
a charge cooler is not vital on a S/C engine however when you compress air, that in its self generates heat. On the old super charger conversion we could see inlet air temps, climbing under hard use to 60 degrees. At this time nothing over 30 degrees has been seen on the dyno.

We do not need the big ears, as the supercharger does not generate the same heat that a turbo will, it actually gets no hotter than your cam cover.

We have run the engine with and without the cooler, because of the medium boost we can get to air temps of close to 100 °C. The cooler reduces that to a level of 30°C or less. It results in a difference of 25Nm or 20Kw (30 bHP) more power. We had checked both situations on the dyno.

#2177

[MAP18W]

shut-up, shut-up, I can't hear you...la laaa lelalaaa la lala laaaa

i've tried this method, it dont work i am now hearing this everyday in my head!!

even when i buy lunch i hear " just think!! all this money wasted on such things as food and water!! when you can have a supercharger!!!!!!!"

i feel so ashamed

Food is for wimps!!!
[Homer Simpson]Mmmmm Supercharger....... [/Homer Simpson]

[stevevx220]

Jon, will the stage 2 work with the VSE?

[MAP18W]

Jon, will the stage 2 work with the VSE?

You'd still need a front pipe (pre-cat removed and sports cat) and the combination of the front pipe and the VSE will be very LOUD and with the VSE may not generate the power. Milltek probably the way to go.

[paulf-cam]

#2177, do you have an SC logo on the back of your car now, like the "turbo" on the VXT? I remember reading something about a logo in that report you wrote... Cheers, Paul.

[Marco Polo]

HiTec maybe..................

[#2177]

#2177, do you have an SC logo on the back of your car now, like the "turbo" on the VXT? I remember reading something about a logo in that report you wrote... 

Cheers, Paul.

I have made a "Kompressor" logo for it, but you can order your own logo. HITEC just makes a couple of small red HITEC stickers on it!

#2177

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[Foxy]

I have made a "Kompressor" logo for it, but you can order your own logo.

I'm sorry, but that's really nasty!

[paulf-cam]

I have made a "Kompressor" logo for it, but you can order your own logo. HITEC just makes a couple of small red HITEC stickers on it!

Cool - I was thinking of just getting SC in the same font as VX220 just underneath it...

Now all I need is a few thousand £!

Cheers, Paul.