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#21 iceman

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Posted 08 June 2005 - 04:05 PM

;) ..after you've spent fours hours removing the bolts it is! simple (so i'v been told)

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Posted 08 June 2005 - 04:07 PM

Ill get both, fitted and non fitted prices, then people can decide what they want to do if they want to do it thumbsup

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Posted 08 June 2005 - 06:33 PM

Definately up for this if the price is right, I need some nice noises now the roof is off! Is Willow the man to try and get this deal? Dave thumbsup *edited to say clearly willow is the man, I have read it can be a b*tch to fit, but also has anyone got a sound clip of one fitted as it might help ramp up the group buy?!!!*

Edited by Rag_It, 08 June 2005 - 06:35 PM.


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Posted 08 June 2005 - 06:35 PM

thumbsup sure is.. :D

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Posted 08 June 2005 - 07:26 PM

So we are at............ Depending on Price Willow JamesGray Troilism? - You a VXT or a NA man? NeilG Wrightster IanHD - post regal sale Jimgraham Rag_it thumbsup Ill find a price tomorrow thumbsup

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Posted 08 June 2005 - 08:01 PM

cool cheers willow :jump:

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Posted 08 June 2005 - 09:12 PM

Willow JamesGray Troilism? - You a VXT or a NA man? NeilG Wrightster IanHD - post regal sale Jimgraham Rag_it vxbill83 ill get involved for the right price cheers

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Posted 08 June 2005 - 10:02 PM

Im up for one too, but i was looking at a piper back box for around £330. Will be buying one in 3 weeks.

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Posted 09 June 2005 - 05:42 AM

I hate to upset anyone but.........the VSE is a back box only, is proven to add NO extra power and is made some mild steel so will rot, why on earth would you want to put it on your car? Yes it sounds good but IMO thats not a good enough reason. I'm sure Vauxhall will shout at me for this but it has to be said, sorry. Obviously I'd recommend the Milltek (which is the same price, gives a better throttle response (backbox only, full system proven to give 10-12 bhp) is lighter, made from full stainless steel not mild steel and has a lifetime guarrantee AND sounds fantastic. I could work out a group buy on them is anyone was interested?

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Posted 09 June 2005 - 06:09 AM

I could work out a group buy on them is anyone was interested?

work out some prices chap if you could, think there are about 9 of us so far thumbsup

Only reason i havent looked at it yet is because I havent seen/heard one myself :unsure:

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Posted 09 June 2005 - 06:26 AM

I hate to upset anyone but.........the VSE is a back box only, is proven to add NO extra power and is made some mild steel so will rot, why on earth would you want to put it on your car? Yes it sounds good but IMO thats not a good enough reason. I'm sure Vauxhall will shout at me for this but it has to be said, sorry.

Obviously I'd recommend the Milltek (which is the same price, gives a better throttle response (backbox only, full system proven to give 10-12 bhp) is lighter, made from full stainless steel not mild steel and has a lifetime guarrantee AND sounds fantastic.

I could work out a group buy on them is anyone was interested?

John that sounds good. thumbsup

The reason i am after a vse is that for insurance puposes, it can be classified as a factory fit option, which it would seem loads the premium less than stating a sports exaust. I've also experienced the VSE on a couple of occations, whereas i've not heard the miltek. I'm open to suggegtions really, if everyone would rather go fro a group buy on Millteks then i'm ball.

Lets see what you can can both come back with and take it from there, thanks to both of you for looking into it.
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Posted 09 June 2005 - 07:01 AM

the miltek sounds like better value as its stainless i would just like to hear one, i have heard the VSE and that sounded great :D :D but mild steel :blink: :(

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Posted 09 June 2005 - 07:08 AM

John, Milltek on a group buy, sounds like a plan!!!!!

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May be a good idea to start the list again and add which VX you have so it's easier to manage.

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Posted 09 June 2005 - 07:10 AM

Willow JamesGray Troilism - VXT NeilG Wrightster 2.2 NA IanHD - post regal sale Jimgraham Rag_it vxbill83

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Posted 09 June 2005 - 07:15 AM

hang on chaps, we're going to have to do separate buys for Na's and VXTs. VSE is Na only. :rolleyes:

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Posted 09 June 2005 - 07:29 AM

I hate to upset anyone but.........the VSE is a back box only, is proven to add NO extra power and is made some mild steel so will rot, why on earth would you want to put it on your car? Yes it sounds good but IMO thats not a good enough reason.

As much of a fan of the VSE as I am, I have to agree that it's not the best buy as there's no cat section to upgrade to later and the mild steel will not last as long as stainless. However, the main reason to get a VSE is that it sounds fantastic, so if you like the sound (and I know a lot do, including myself) then you should buy the Janspeed instead. Janspeed make the VSE but if you buy it from Janspeed then it comes in stainless steel. Janspeed also do a cat section too so you will have wins on performance (if you choose to get the cat section later) and durability.

Also consider Piper who have clearly ripped off the KomoTec exhaust but it looks (to my untrained eye) to be a slightly better design than the Janspeed/VSE whilst still providing most of the noise. Piper also do a cat section AND i think they do a manifold? Or was that Janspeed?

If I was to buy again I'd be choosing between the Piper and the Miltek and then probably choosing the Piper because it offers the sort of sound I want.

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Posted 09 June 2005 - 07:36 AM

Personally, Power gains are a No No for me, Insurance is already huuuuuuuuuuuuuge, any mod is adding more all the time........ I just need a more beefy sound - as im such a chav poof - so whatever is best in that sense suits me thumbsup If we can get hold of Janspeed, Piper, Milltek or whoever, and they offer the best deal, then thats all good with me thumbsup - at the end of the day if everyone decides on one or the other there will be more incentive for suppliers to offer a better price........

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Posted 09 June 2005 - 07:53 AM

I just need a more beefy sound - as im such a chav  poof  - so whatever is best in that sense suits me

I will admit that I bought the VSE for this reason too :)

If we can get hold of Janspeed, Piper, Milltek or whoever, and they offer the best deal, then thats all good with me  thumbsup  - at the end of the day if everyone decides on one or the other there will be more incentive for suppliers to offer a better price........

Indeed, my post wasn't meant as a dig though. It's good to see members sorting out these group buys! thumbsup

From the >Piper Website< (I don't know if those prices include VAT or not):

S/STEEL SYSTEM, £335, VX220 2.2, BACKBOX
S/S PERF CAT, £474, VX220 2.2, PERFORMANCE CAT (200 CPSI)
S/S CAT BYPASS, £271, VX220 2.2, CAT BYPASS PIPE - WITH BOX
S/S CAT BYPASS, £271, VX220 2.2, CAT BYPASS PIPE - WITHOUT BOX

From the >Janspeed Website<:

BACKBOX STAINLESS STEEL VAUXHALL VX220  £374.99 (£319.14)
PERFORMANCE CAT STAINLESS STEEL VAUXHALL VX220  £279.98 (£238.28)

I can't find the bit on exhaust manifolds, but I'm sure that wasn't high on the wishlist at the moment.

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Posted 09 June 2005 - 09:50 AM

Hitec (they make the SC kit for the NA) tested the Milltek, Piper, Janspeed and Komotec and found out that the Milltek genereated the LEAST back pressure. Hence Hitec now order Millteks as part of the SC kits in Europe. The VSE isn't a factory option for the car either, its a dealer fit option which also applies to the Milltek (VXR). I'm not suggesting you defraund your insurance company but the fact is that there is no 'factory fit' exhaust option only a dealer fit - this applies to the VSE and the Milltek. thumbsup I'll work on a group buy price on a few things ;)

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Posted 09 June 2005 - 09:58 AM

just to make you guys jealous.... getting full milltek fitted this weekend to my T, if it turns up on time!! ;)




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