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[rubber]

Just wanted to add my bit to all this. I wanted more power from my car after the stage 3, had spoken to John before about TB's and he thought it could be possible to sort. I personally prefer this route rather than SC. This is my own choice. When we had the national this year PaulCP had his car up and running, very fast. He did take me out in it and I was impressed. Then the trouble started, not with his car, but with him . He tried everything within his power to get me to drive the SC beast. I just kept refusing, why? If I had of taken it I KNOW I would of been straight of to get one, and he knew it aswell. The wait without a car for so long has been terrible, but hopefully worth it!! WHEN I get it back in full form I will try and make it as easy as possible for people to get a look and pax drive. You THINK I'm letting someone else drive it!! I am hoping the power will be close to the SC, but we will have to see, but the noise should be far superior All in all I think the whole thing is down to personal choice, it wouldn't pay to be all the same would it? Ian

[The Knobs]

Hmmmmm some interesting debate here although how some can comment without having even been in an SC'd VX220 let alone driven one is beyond me.

However for a real comparison between SC & TB the proof is in the pudding as they say. Only problem is we only have one half of the pudding

only a proper head to head will do

[Dibba]

The Stage 3, under development, which uses more internal component changes for further durability and reliability and will run to 7,000 rpm or so and current testing is producing in excess of 260 bhp.

Hi Mark,
What is the anticipated release date for the Stage 3 please ? Would be very interested to see the power and torque graphs plus costs when available please ?
Thanks,
Steve

[Thorney]

Tell you what......when we release the TB kits ( three stages) and Courtenay release the stage SC kits I'm happpy to get a magazine to do a head to head with all the cars and come up with a conclusion - good idea? I'm sure Courtenay would be up for it and it would be a laugh

[Thorney]

Just to tempt you further

[Tony_M]

Just one question John, do I have to have the trumpets in that really RED colour ?

[PaulCP]

Then the trouble started, not with his car, but with him . He tried everything within his power to get me to drive the SC beast. I just kept refusing, why? If I had of taken it  I KNOW I would of been straight of to get one, and he knew it aswell.

would have saved you alot of hassle though mate

and to be really honest i really do hope that the predicted 220bhp to 250bhp from the TBs can be delivered

Edited by PaulCP, 16 March 2006 - 08:55 AM.

[Thorney]

Just one question John, do I have to have the trumpets in that really RED colour ?

You won't see them mate....will have a filter over the top

[clipping_point]

Interesting! They look pretty short, the runners! Is it a AFPR to the left?

[MAP18W]

Tell you what......when we release the TB kits ( three stages) and Courtenay release the stage SC kits I'm happpy to get a magazine to do a head to head with all the cars and come up with a conclusion - good idea?

I'm sure Courtenay would be up for it and it would be a laugh

I think a comparison would be great for all concerned. Both cars will be more than capable. When the TB's are released we can put the Stage 2's side by side straight away. Would be a good day out too!

[cheeky_chops]

well, you better chuck a similarly spec'd stage 2 "SLJ" in there too

[Dibba]

Sounds like a GREAT day out !! There is no denying that those throttle bodies do look bloody sexy (but then I do so need to get out more !! ) and will no doubt sound awesome On a similar vein - is there going to be a Tuner GP this year ? - would be great to have some VX's out there in with the Elise's this year

Edited by Dibba, 16 March 2006 - 10:36 AM.

[Thorney]

Yep...announcing Tuner GP next week.

[Dibba]

Yep...announcing Tuner GP next week.

Was an excellent day last year - need some VX's out there this year though

[Tony_M]

Yep...announcing Tuner GP next week.

I'll be up for it if you need a hand again

[speedster]

Hi John, Will you be supplying this kit for self-install?

[VIX]

Would be a good day out too!

5p a go?

[Thorney]

Hi John,

Will you be supplying this kit for self-install?

I'd imagine so, although the ECU will need mapping professionally.

[Arno]

Just to tempt you further

Dude! Someone has nicked the rear clam!!

Now this is starting to look the business!

Just needs a little more bling like nice shiny braided hoses all over the place and chromed bits to go with the red trumpets

Doesn't look too bad space-wise either. The Duratec conversion on the S1 Elise has to use curved trumpets to get enough intake length in the very restricted space between the bulkhead and the engine.

Bye, Arno.

[clipping_point]

.....has to use curved trumpets to get enough intake length in the very restricted space between the bulkhead and the engine.

Yep. As the standard Z22SE has.

It will be really interesting to see the graphs, maybe intake length is not so important?