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#21 Richy

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Posted 26 February 2006 - 10:06 PM

Indeed B.A.D.. its looking stunning, its really starting to come together Imnotworthy Looks like you will never be short of down-force :P PS. please keep it white thumbsup

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Posted 27 February 2006 - 07:13 AM

Here comes an update on Badster R3..

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Posted 27 February 2006 - 07:14 AM

another...With the front aerofoil....

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Posted 27 February 2006 - 10:45 AM

You really dont get what this exige-hood does. do you?

This is a aerodynamic upgrade and not some bling to impress 14 year old girls down by McDonalds ;)

Huh?

Crossed wires here I think. I wasn't talking about the Exige style hood, I was talking about the bodykit (which I think looks great). I'm merely commenting on the double standards and how some owners get slated for daring to fit a tiny front splitter or even some carpets yet others get praised by adding a tonne of fibreglass bodykit.

Personally I love the bodykit and can't see any problem with fitting some carpets, it's other members that seem to have problems with such trivial matters.

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Posted 27 February 2006 - 10:49 AM

Philz

Try removing that chip from your shoulder before you post again

Yeah! DJE wants it back ;) :P





FWIW - This is hardly in the same league as 12" subs in the boot! :poke: ;)

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Posted 27 February 2006 - 12:25 PM

Hi! Everything on the car has a purpose, to go faster..... When we did the record run for a Swedish magazine the driver complained just a little bit over some understeer, it might be a case of to cold tires but it could also mean that we need a little more downforce up front. So after some talk with people that has aerodynamic knowlege and with my own ideas the project started.. Up front we have the splitter combined with the aerofoil underneeth it, we have air-escapes both on top and behind the front wheels to get rid of the air stuck there. The sideskirts should have a stablising effect and the Coanda ditch a bit off diffusor effect The engine cover creates a much cleaner airflow over the car and gives the backwing an undisturbed airflow. We also have a bigger airvolume in the enginebay so it should keep cooler (with the not finnished vents), and we can scoop some air to cool the turbo... We will also have a much bigger diffusor later on... We will try and ballance out the front with the backwing.. //Anders Badster R3

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Posted 27 February 2006 - 12:41 PM

FWIW - This is hardly in the same league as 12" subs in the boot! :poke: ;)

thumbsup I agree, overspill from other thread!

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Posted 27 February 2006 - 09:27 PM

Hi!
Everything on the car has a purpose, to go faster.....
When we did the record run for a Swedish magazine the driver complained just a little bit over some understeer, it might be a case of to cold tires but it could also mean that we need
a little more downforce up front. So after some talk with people that has aerodynamic knowlege and with my own ideas the project started..
Up front we have the splitter combined with the aerofoil underneeth it, we have air-escapes both on top and behind the front wheels to get rid of the air stuck there.
The sideskirts should have a stablising effect and the Coanda ditch a bit off diffusor effect
The engine cover creates a much cleaner airflow over the car and gives the backwing an undisturbed airflow. We also have a bigger airvolume in the enginebay so it should keep cooler (with the not finnished vents), and we can scoop some air to cool the turbo...
We will also have a much bigger diffusor later on...
We will try and ballance out the front with the backwing..

//Anders Badster R3

Good stuff. :)

Do you have any ideas on how much extra weight has been added to the car and how that might affect handling yet?

#29 B.A.D

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Posted 27 February 2006 - 09:59 PM

Hi!
Everything on the car has a purpose, to go faster.....
When we did the record run for a Swedish magazine the driver complained just a little bit over some understeer, it might be a case of to cold tires but it could also mean that we need
a little more downforce up front. So after some talk with people that has aerodynamic knowlege and with my own ideas the project started..
Up front we have the splitter combined with the aerofoil underneeth it, we have air-escapes both on top and behind the front wheels to get rid of the air  stuck there.
The sideskirts should have a stablising effect and the Coanda ditch a bit off diffusor effect
The engine cover creates a much cleaner airflow over the car and gives the backwing an undisturbed airflow. We also have a bigger airvolume in the enginebay so it should keep cooler (with the not finnished vents), and we can scoop some air to cool the turbo...
We will also have a much bigger diffusor later on...
We will try and ballance out the front with the backwing..

//Anders Badster R3

Good stuff. :)

Do you have any ideas on how much extra weight has been added to the car and how that might affect handling yet?

The engine cover and targa will be much lighter than the original item and the front and sides I dont now but my previous front weigted only 1.5 kg.

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Posted 27 February 2006 - 10:00 PM

Hi BAD, Can I ask you (well yes obviously I can ask, thats what Im doing at the moment innit) how you fixed the ring at the front, because after being dragged out of the gravel once my ring is not looking good... Best regards

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Posted 27 February 2006 - 10:34 PM

Do you have any ideas on how much extra weight has been added to the car and how that might affect handling yet?

The engine cover and targa will be much lighter than the original item and the front and sides I dont now but my previous front weigted only 1.5 kg.

Me thinks that was an attempt at sarcasm. :rolleyes:

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Posted 27 February 2006 - 10:44 PM

Do you have any ideas on how much extra weight has been added to the car and how that might affect handling yet?

The engine cover and targa will be much lighter than the original item and the front and sides I dont now but my previous front weigted only 1.5 kg.

Me thinks that was an attempt at sarcasm. :rolleyes:

I didn't...

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Posted 27 February 2006 - 11:51 PM

I shouldn't like it (I usually prefer stealth) but I so like it!! It looks excellent...!! Hats off to you there. btw. I agree with another post... keep it in white!! :D Have you thought about playing with the radiator opening to get more flow through from underneath and up? That would (I believe) pull the front of the car down more if done correctly. I've seen that done on another 'project' car with great effect. P.

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Posted 28 February 2006 - 07:55 AM

Hi BAD,

Can I ask you (well yes obviously I can ask, thats what Im doing at the moment innit) how you fixed the ring at the front, because after being dragged out of the gravel once my ring is not looking good...

Best regards

The tow eye is not ready it just stays there for now but I will let you now when its ready..

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Posted 28 February 2006 - 08:03 AM

I shouldn't like it (I usually prefer stealth) but I so like it!!
It looks excellent...!! Hats off to you there.

btw. I agree with another post... keep it in white!! :D

Have you thought about playing with the radiator opening to get more flow through from underneath and up? That would (I believe) pull the front of the car down more if done correctly. I've seen that done on another 'project' car with great effect.

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I have been thinking of opening the hole but then you have to open up on the hood to..
You dont want the enter hole to be bigger than the exit hole.

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Posted 28 February 2006 - 09:59 PM

Hi BAD,

Can I ask you (well yes obviously I can ask, thats what Im doing at the moment innit) how you fixed the ring at the front, because after being dragged out of the gravel once my ring is not looking good...

Best regards

The tow eye is not ready it just stays there for now but I will let you now when its ready..

Thanks, look forward to hearing from you.

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Posted 28 February 2006 - 10:08 PM

You dont want the enter hole to be bigger than the exit hole.

Word thumbsup :P :P

Edited by R1CHY, 28 February 2006 - 10:09 PM.


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Posted 28 February 2006 - 11:34 PM

Me thinks that was an attempt at sarcasm. :rolleyes:

Think what you want, it was a genuine question.

I've seen threads about adding tiny little front splitters (think it was a Courtney one) and they've been shot down because of their dubious ability to assist (and probably hinder) aerodynamics so I was genuinely interested in how all this fibreglass will affect the handling and weight and balance of the car.

As I understand it (from using the notorious search engine). Vauxhall/Lotus have spent millions perfecting the suspension setup, weight balance etc. of this car so adding aftermarket stuff can have a seriously detrimental effect on the car so my question was something I'm genuinely interested in knowing the answer to.

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Posted 28 February 2006 - 11:41 PM

after being dragged out of the gravel once my ring is not looking good...

Yowza! Way too much information man! :o

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Posted 01 March 2006 - 09:13 AM

Me thinks that was an attempt at sarcasm. :rolleyes:

Think what you want, it was a genuine question.

I've seen threads about adding tiny little front splitters (think it was a Courtney one) and they've been shot down because of their dubious ability to assist (and probably hinder) aerodynamics so I was genuinely interested in how all this fibreglass will affect the handling and weight and balance of the car.

As I understand it (from using the notorious search engine). Vauxhall/Lotus have spent millions perfecting the suspension setup, weight balance etc. of this car so adding aftermarket stuff can have a seriously detrimental effect on the car so my question was something I'm genuinely interested in knowing the answer to.

See what you mean.

But fact is that the B.A.D. mods on last years car made the car really successful in race tests.

He generally uses light materials, carbon fibre etc.

Also he has contact with people at the SAAB design office.

So, myself I confident that this will be a stunning car, and I am really eager to see it in action. chinky chinky




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