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Started by TurboTomato , Mar 15 2006 06:52 PM

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#181 cheeky_chops

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Posted 04 August 2006 - 09:35 PM

if not the merc then how about a late-ish vw TDI? they should be ok... only thing is i'm not too sure how computerised the injection pumps are and the what intolerance this gives towards the fuel.... :blink:


yea, there seems to be alot of conflicting and "i think you can use fuel xxx with engine y" posts :unsure:

Good vw forum (american!) with a whole biofuels forum http://forums.tdiclu...isplay.php?f=52 thumbsup

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Posted 05 August 2006 - 10:19 AM

cheeky, we are posting on a vx forum what our opinion is on a deeply geeky matter and backing that up with what we think of other fora(?). i think that this shed thing has got way out of hand and we should have a good long think about what we have done... :( :P :D

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Posted 05 August 2006 - 05:25 PM

I take it back my shed isn't all that bad. After some work with a hammer, a block of wood and varuious cleaning agents....

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The chicken sh*t has given the paintwork a texture fairly close to that of sand but it looks okay for a mini.

The interior came up a treat and looks brand new.

Gave the little thing an oil change and a quick drive around in a field. It feels impressive for a 1.3i mini engine.

So maybe it was worth the three bottles of harvest gold mead ( :sick: ) i paid for it. thumbsup

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Posted 16 August 2006 - 04:14 PM

Nice shedding CKR thumbsup Thought I'd better check when the sheds MoT ran out a couple of nights ago as I remembered it was some time in August. Yup you guessed it the MoT ran out on the 4th :beat: So I've got it booked in for Monday and I'm being forced to drive the TVR everywhere Such a hardship!

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Posted 16 August 2006 - 05:22 PM

Don't know what you're worried about TT. The lack of an MOT doesn't seem to have stopped some of the sheds around my way driving about for ages...

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Posted 16 August 2006 - 09:36 PM

same as my rover shed - MOT ran out Monday. Got some new discs and pads to be fitted, £42 off ebay! Slightly cheaper than £220 pagids i am bauking at buying atm :beat: Was going to do it myself, called this local garage (looks like they specialise in sheds!) and they quoted me £35+vat to fit. No brainer as it would take me about 5 hours and havent got a torque wrench thumbsup



Alas, shed is going to be for sale soon :( Been a trusty workhorse for the last 10 months, and, (touch wood) never failed me or the missus. New job location means a load of extra daily miles....



However. I will be aquiring a suitable vegetable oil burner to replace! ;)

Edited by cheeky_chops, 16 August 2006 - 09:38 PM.

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Posted 17 August 2006 - 07:46 AM

However. I will be aquiring a suitable vegetable oil burner to replace! ;)


bit slow on the old PM cheeky, had a bit of bad luck on the family front so the all encompassing "how to be a greenie and save money on fuel" email has been put a bit further down the priorities list. if you have any specific questions PM me and i'll be able to answer them straight away (well as quickly as i can), just not got the time to sit down and do the "how to" at the mo i'm afraid :(

by the way, i've registered with customs and am chuffed to bits with my heavily reduced (read nearly zero) fuel costs! :lol:

edit: £220 is fine for vx brakes. i was p1ssed off that the sheds pads cost me nearly £22!

Edited by AntB, 17 August 2006 - 07:47 AM.

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Posted 17 August 2006 - 07:53 AM

With the crappy weather fast approaching, I will be on the lookout for another shed for the winter months. Previously had a Metro Rio 'S' (no least!) as highlighted earlier in the thread.

I love browsing sheds, but I don't know why!

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Posted 17 August 2006 - 11:44 AM

With the crappy weather fast approaching, I will be on the lookout for another shed for the winter months. Previously had a Metro Rio 'S' (no least!) as highlighted earlier in the thread.

I love browsing sheds, but I don't know why!


moonland is quite similar to brown! :P

Be selling mine if interested.....

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Posted 17 August 2006 - 12:21 PM


However. I will be aquiring a suitable vegetable oil burner to replace! ;)


bit slow on the old PM cheeky...


No problemo mate - think i am going to go for a shitroen citroen xantia 1.9 td with the XUD9 engine. Comes with A/C, etc for a similar price as a corsa (the 1.5 td does seem to be expensive) Good for veggie up to 90% :tt:

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Posted 17 August 2006 - 12:41 PM

No problemo mate - think i am going to go for a shitroen citroen xantia 1.9 td with the XUD9 engine. Comes with A/C, etc for a similar price as a corsa (the 1.5 td does seem to be expensive) Good for veggie up to 90% :tt:



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100% wvo in the corsa in the carpark. i like having my own refinery in my back garden, kind of like haverford west (or is it milford haven) but without the picturesque setting!

by poof i obviously mean don't EVER try to out- skinflint me!!! you own a vxr for a start, so you're already on the back foot! :P ;)

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Posted 17 August 2006 - 01:51 PM

:P Oh there is nothing wrong with being pikey - i'd call saving £300 a month on fuel a frikkin result! :D More mods, less mortgage thumbsup Wher are you based - Might come and have a butchers at you refinery?? :)

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Posted 17 August 2006 - 02:03 PM

looking forward to a how to Ant. esp - where to get veggy from?

Edited by JamesGray, 18 August 2006 - 07:49 AM.

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Posted 17 August 2006 - 02:38 PM

i'll PM you the diagrams of the way the filtration system works cheeky, i'm about 140 miles away from you, so a bit far to 'pop by'. full how to guide to follow, for those with diesel sheds looking to be skinflints thumbsup

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Posted 17 August 2006 - 09:39 PM

keewl - sure you will PM it but for anyother skinflints interested parties, how much ££/time to put the filtration system together and how much space do you need?



Shed is now for sale http://www.vx220.org...showtopic=41846

Edited by cheeky_chops, 17 August 2006 - 10:26 PM.

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Posted 18 August 2006 - 08:13 AM

at the moment the filtration system consists of: 1) a big plastic laundry bucket full of wvo 2) a syphon pump 3) an old cupboard door with a 4" hole in the middle of it 4) four steel rims with the cupboard door with the hole in it sitting on it 5) a 50 micron and 10 micron filter (fit in the hole) 6) a bucket 7) a funnel 8) a tarp it will consist of (in it's own custom made shed- of the non- car variety) 1) oil drum for wvo storage 2) another oil drum shortened containing 40 gallons of water, beneath the other drum 3) an immersion heater element* 4) a thermostatic switch and central heating clock/ controller* 5) central heating pump 6) plastic central heating pipes running to 50/ 10/ 5 micron filters* 7) large carbuoy/ gerry can* 8) aquarium bubbler the * denote bits i already have, the oil drums are arriving this week and my friendly local metal fabricator is shortening one of them. the heating element is in the bottom one with the water to heat the wvo up in the one above, to de-water it, the bubbler helps the evaporation of the water, blasting it up through the oil (in theory). you have to keep the copper element away from the wvo as it makes green sludge out of the wvo. i have 600mm square paving slabs at the back of my garden next to the house and that lot takes up three of them so it's 600mm x 1800mm. so far less than £30 on those bits, most of it off ebay. will all go together in an afternoon thumbsup any help? :unsure:

Edited by AntB, 18 August 2006 - 08:18 AM.

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Posted 18 August 2006 - 08:19 AM

i think we need an explanation about the concept :D

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Posted 18 August 2006 - 08:32 AM

that's why i was going to PM cheeky with a proper diagram. handily that lot will also be perfectly good for a biodiesel reactor, with the addition of another pipe, and a two way valve to recirculate the concoction to aid the reaction. thumbsup oh ffs. right the thing is with used chip fat that it will have two types of water in it. emulsified, that you can do nothing about and separated, that will come from condensation or sitting outside. it will also have (and does have) bits of old fried food etc in it. the oil needs to be separated to get rid of the emulsified water and then heated to get rid of the water that is sitting below it, that is currently done perfectly adequately by the sun in my south facing garden. once that is done you can run it through the filters, first to get rid of the chunks of fried food, then to get rid of any other major impurities, hence the 50, 10 and 5 micron filters. after that you can bung it straight in the fuel tank. the first thing you need to do is notify customs so that they can send you the correct forms to declare what you use. you have to do this FIRST as soon as the oil is "set aside" for use as a road fuel. in colder weather (we're getting there) it's an idea to bung in 5% petrol to aid cold starting, unless you have a strong battery to ensure the cylinders get warm enough to make the injectors hot enough to atomise the fuel. this is less of a hassle with regular derv as it is less viscous. VERY IMPORTANT: you need to ensure that your injection pump is of the correct variety, Lucas/ CAV pumps use the fuel oil to lubricate their working parts, thicker oil will lead to extra stress being put on these parts and will lead to pump failure. bosch and bosch clones are generally ok. also DO NOT use wvo or svo in a common rail or hdi diesel! you will break your car. is that enough?

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Posted 18 August 2006 - 09:42 AM

i like it. :D the only other thing: where does one procure one's self, used chip fat? :rolleyes:

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Posted 18 August 2006 - 09:49 AM

that is the most important bit right there's an art to this bit. you actually need to find a chinese that sells chips, like i have at the end of my road :D this is because generally, due to the fact that they have to change ALL of their oil more regularly, the oil will be of better quality than pubs etc. AVOID kfcs and McDs as they a ) tend to use hydrogenated oil, which is no good, or b ) use blocks of lard/ treated oil that is SOLID at room temperature. which is no good chippies have to pay to get rid of their old chip oil as it is hazardous. they will let you take it away for free if you are nice to them. i foresee a load of shed users on here with blocked fuel lines :lol:

Edited by AntB, 18 August 2006 - 09:54 AM.

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