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#1 mandarinvx

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Posted 25 July 2006 - 05:21 PM

Hi,

I'm hoping to take the car in to get the wheels and other things sprayed black (he said he can do satin finish - like the speedlines but with a graphite metallic flake underneath ;) )
He needs the car for two days to allow the paint to cure correctly (seems like a real perfectionist) and therefore the car will need to be fully raised and supported with no wheels for around 36 hours.
I've read that under no circumstances is the car to be raised by only two jacking points at any one time :o
Therefore is the correct procedure to:

-Raise with trolley jack
-Support this side with two axle stands (or similar) at each end of the sill
-Lower jack so car is supported by stands on one side
-Jack opposite side
-Support this side with axle stands
-Lower jack so that car is supported by the four main jacking points running behind the sill plates

I dont think he has a four point lift of any form - or at least I didn't see one when I popped down at lunch!

Have I got this right? am I missing anything? Any advise greatly appreciated!!!

By the four main jacking points I mean the sill ones shown in this piccy:
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Cheers,

Adam :)

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Posted 26 July 2006 - 06:41 AM

By the four main jacking points I mean the sill ones shown in this piccy:


No, the ones in the middle are where you would jack the car up, the others are where the axle stands would support the car.

There's a photograph somewhere, Vauxhall or Lotus "official" information I think, that shows an alternative location for the rear support points. I use these as I think they're easier to get to. Sorry I don't have time just now to find it, but the ones in the drawing should be fine too.


HTH.

-David.

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Posted 26 July 2006 - 06:43 AM

Jack the car up using the middle point, and use the rear subframe points to put your axel stands under (needs removal of undertray). Don't rush it and you'll be fine! :)

Edited by Elaine, 26 July 2006 - 06:44 AM.


#4 mandarinvx

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Posted 26 July 2006 - 07:55 AM

Thanks for the advise :) So its a case of removing the 13 bolts and sliding the undertray out - good opportunity to check that they are all tight I guess :rolleyes: Cheers

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 07:32 PM

been reading through a few of these threads.... Iis the above process the best way to get the VX onto 4 axle stands? Do the axle stands go at each end of the sills as per original post or under the furthest forward arrows and the furthers rear-wards arrows for 4 point axle stand support as said above by Elaine? (B & D in lotus wiki http://wiki.seloc.org/a/Jacking_points )

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 07:40 PM

JG did it like poetry in motion :sick: :D Imnotworthy

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 07:55 PM

I do it rather often.

I have a pretty set procedure:

First of all i have a jack each side, you don't have to, but it makes life a lot easier.
First i loosen all wheel nuts, and remove locking nuts all together with the car still on the ground

If the diffuser is coming off, the rear axle stands will go on the end of the subframe (near where the main diffuser bolts go) Like this:
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if the diffuser is not coming off then i use the bottom rear wishbone like this or on the reinforcement at the bottom of the shock mount. (note: you can't mess around with suspension as it will stay compressed.
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On the front they go at the front of the chassis leg comme ca:
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I then jack both sides until i reach balancing point. then i go up on one side only until both wheels on that side are off ground. I then place axle stands, and remove wheels (or the other way round for the rear axle stand if i'm using the wishbone). I then repeat on the other side.

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Posted 18 May 2012 - 07:48 AM

Excellent post there JG, very clear with those pictures. And how clean?!

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Posted 18 May 2012 - 09:39 AM

I enforced the area where the main diffuser bolts are for my mot, with some stuff from the diy shop.
Could be handy if you don't want the diffuser off.

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Same location as JG is showing here, but mine is with diffuser on:
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Edited by smiley, 18 May 2012 - 09:40 AM.


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Posted 18 May 2012 - 10:08 AM



Jealous of the 'cleanliness' :wub:

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Posted 18 May 2012 - 10:31 AM

I jack up both sides, the car is perfectly balanced and then I axle stand.

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Posted 18 May 2012 - 10:35 AM

You need one of these:

http://www.cjautoshe...co.uk/mini.html

Martin (two4oneuk) has one and I'm jealous having been through the whole four point jacking procedure.. :happy:

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Posted 18 May 2012 - 10:48 AM

I almost bought one of those a couple of years ago but wasn't sure how well the sills would cope with it. Then realised there's not enough ground clearance on my car to slide it under. Maybe I should just recess it into the garage floor.

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Posted 18 May 2012 - 10:51 AM

Hmmm, Martin uses his, and his car looked pretty low on his Nitron suspension.. Not seen it in action yet, so perhaps he has to pre-jack one end or something... As for the sills, the lifting pads seem to be pretty long, so I'd presume it was ok as your not point loading in that area.

Edited by Rosssco, 18 May 2012 - 10:53 AM.


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Posted 22 May 2012 - 10:22 PM

http://www.vx220.org...91266-car-lift/

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 08:17 PM

JG any chance you still have these pictures as I can't see them on here? Just wondered where abouts you place the jacks when using the rear wishbones to support the car. Just on the end nearest the hub?

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 08:24 PM

humm Photobucket is clearly down. Its been tempremental all day. I'll see if i can find them.

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 08:27 PM

indeed photobucket is knackered.

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 08:28 PM

A4 paper, for the win.

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 08:29 PM

indeed photobucket is knackered.


Just linked to a photo hosted with them above.




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