Vxr No 16 For Sale
#721
Posted 10 August 2007 - 02:01 PM
#722
Posted 10 August 2007 - 02:02 PM
#724
Posted 10 August 2007 - 02:04 PM
Oh I totally agree but in a court of law, silence does not constitute guilt. If a client is not prepared or willing to give evidence then it is up to the prosecution to prove beyond all reasonable doubt their case...
That would only really be valid in criminal proceedings. A case in the Crown court would be a civil matter and judged on the balance of probabilities which is much easier to achive.
#725
Posted 10 August 2007 - 02:16 PM
VXR Sweet 16 for sale, great car has covered just under 5k usual VXR goodies please call 07811 106827 for more info priced to sell £19995. For more pics just ask
Can someone help me upload some pics doesnt seem to wanna know, what is the procedure?
A big hello from all of us at the :Mitsubishi Lancer Register Imran, good luck with the sale ROFL
Edited by Imran-into-me-car, 10 August 2007 - 02:20 PM.
#726
Posted 10 August 2007 - 02:19 PM
#727
Posted 10 August 2007 - 02:19 PM
#728
Posted 10 August 2007 - 02:22 PM
Oh I totally agree but in a court of law, silence does not constitute guilt. If a client is not prepared or willing to give evidence then it is up to the prosecution to prove beyond all reasonable doubt their case...
That would only really be valid in criminal proceedings. A case in the Crown court would be a civil matter and judged on the balance of probabilities which is much easier to achive.
With the apparent witch hunt and all 'band wagon' jumping going on, coupled with the lack of direct, hard evidence, the judicial system is the only 'template' that can be applied to make sense of this seemingly one sided mess.
IMO of course.
#729
Posted 10 August 2007 - 02:23 PM
Edited by MrTurner, 10 August 2007 - 02:24 PM.
#730
Posted 10 August 2007 - 02:29 PM
I'm defo thinking Stew_S3 is a member of Imran_over_a_big_rock_and_rolled_his_cars family, solicitor or something. The only person who is trying to say the guy has done nothing wrong, especially now Imran hasn't posted in a while...
Where oh where I have once posted that Imran has done nothing wrong??
Typical and highlights my points that people don't read threads properly, misquote and jump to conclusions.
I am merely stating the case as I see it, objectively, subjectively and with an open and unbiased approach.
And no, I am not Imrans solicitor.
#731
Posted 10 August 2007 - 02:29 PM
#732
Posted 10 August 2007 - 02:31 PM
No, I now realise my error in judgement, what with all this sitting on the fence business, you're obviously a politician.Where oh where I have once posted that Imran has done nothing wrong??
Typical and highlights my points that people don't read threads properly, misquote and jump to conclusions.
I am merely stating the case as I see it, objectively, subjectively and with an open and unbiased approach.
And no, I am not Imrans solicitor.
Burn him!
#733
Posted 10 August 2007 - 02:47 PM
#734
Posted 10 August 2007 - 02:47 PM
And that's the other thing with forums, there are the occasional people like you who read every single detail and get far too anal about every word and it's placement.
I'm defo thinking Stew_S3 is a member of Imran_over_a_big_rock_and_rolled_his_cars family, solicitor or something. The only person who is trying to say the guy has done nothing wrong, especially now Imran hasn't posted in a while...
Where oh where I have once posted that Imran has done nothing wrong??
Typical and highlights my points that people don't read threads properly, misquote and jump to conclusions.
I am merely stating the case as I see it, objectively, subjectively and with an open and unbiased approach.
And no, I am not Imrans solicitor.
OK - instead of saying 'the guy has done nothing wrong' I should have said 'defending the innocent instead of proven guilty'.
Either way, I've read every single post in this forum (I have a very easy job at the mo ) and I've made my own decision. They opose your views, I guess we'll leave it there.
I wonder if VXR 16 will end up as an icon. Like DeLoreans were bought even though they were sh!t.
#735
Posted 10 August 2007 - 02:52 PM
As for all you ***** out there, get over it. Trading standards u say? they wont be doin a thing. The law is "Buyer Beware". A Bodyshop doing dodgy stuff(like repairing cars) you guys are so clever. What you guys are saying is a bodyshop that repairs cars is dodgy, name me any bodyshop that doesnt repair cars. I suppose all you knobs who have posted have never had any work done on your cars, because the that would mean when you sell it your scammers. Please get a life and get over it
For the Audi boys, I'd say the quoted line above is almost an admission of guilt, maybe some might see it another way but basically he's saying "Yeah alright that's what I do, I know no-one can really do anything about it so I dont give a rat's ass" Then going on to justify it by saying that any car which has been into the bodyshop (even to remove a scratch) is just as guilty as he!
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#736
Posted 10 August 2007 - 02:53 PM
And that's the other thing with forums, there are the occasional people like you who read every single detail and get far too anal about every word and it's placement.
I'm defo thinking Stew_S3 is a member of Imran_over_a_big_rock_and_rolled_his_cars family, solicitor or something. The only person who is trying to say the guy has done nothing wrong, especially now Imran hasn't posted in a while...
Where oh where I have once posted that Imran has done nothing wrong??
Typical and highlights my points that people don't read threads properly, misquote and jump to conclusions.
I am merely stating the case as I see it, objectively, subjectively and with an open and unbiased approach.
And no, I am not Imrans solicitor.
OK - instead of saying 'the guy has done nothing wrong' I should have said 'defending the innocent instead of proven guilty'.
Either way, I've read every single post in this forum (I have a very easy job at the mo ) and I've made my own decision. They opose your views, I guess we'll leave it there.
I wonder if VXR 16 will end up as an icon. Like DeLoreans were bought even though they were sh!t.
Actually, my personal view is probably not what you'd expect as the people that have PM'd me will tell you.
My point is, without seeing the irrefutable evidence, I cannot hand on heart say yea or nay, my personal views mean nothing really do they.
Also, reading every last detail does not make you 'anal' about anything, it allows you to make an 'informed' decision and have a better understanding of what people are trying to say. The command of the English language leaves somewhat to be desired on most forums these days.
Edited by Stew_S3, 10 August 2007 - 02:58 PM.
#737
Posted 10 August 2007 - 02:57 PM
#738
Posted 10 August 2007 - 03:06 PM
MMM
I would like to address my comments to Stew 53, in the absolutist sense you are of course correct, the issue here is that THIS is a small community and I know many of these guys personally, Mods and Members and I for one would take what THEY say on faith, whether they choose to release ALL the information is of course up to them, as a legal eagle (it certainly is what you appear to be sorry if your not), you will be well aware of the website owners and Moderators liabilities to Imram, if they are NOT correct in what they are allowing to be alleged.
Given this has run so far and has YET to be contested by the "Accused", with hard facts being sought from him also. T
he conclusions most are now drawing (Myself included) would be well founded to any reasonable observer, criticisms of those reflecting this view are a little naive (with all due respect), given he has had EVERY opportunity to put this to bed!!
Cheers
Indeed, but from this thread's perspective and for all the non VXR owning public's 'pleasure' (for want of a better word) it would be satisfying to put this to bed with some degree of closure.
#739
Posted 10 August 2007 - 03:07 PM
Actually, my personal view is probably not what you'd expect as the people that have PM'd me will tell you.
My point is, without seeing the irrefutable evidence, I cannot hand on heart say yea or nay, my personal views mean nothing really do they.
Please, i'm interested in your personal view, as to be honest that's all this thread is!! As the HARD evidence has been kept by the mods and parties involved, i guess as they do not want any direct trouble (legal i presume) which is, i suppose fair enough.
So how do you see it?
(incase you weren't aware my view is hang the.... joking, although i personally have no real proof to go by, anyone acting like that seems to have something to hide. Therefore i would never buy the car!! Also i take the words of some long term members with a reasonable amount of trust as they have been around for quite sometime and have there finger on the pulse whereas Imran obviously has his finger firmly shoved up his own arse)
Edited by Matt, 10 August 2007 - 03:12 PM.
#740
Posted 10 August 2007 - 03:08 PM
*Awaits official statement from Sir Ian Blair.*Indeed, but from this thread's perspective and for all the non VXR owning public's 'pleasure' (for want of a better word) it would be satisfying to put this to bed with some degree of closure.
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