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[Sam3703]

nope what's this tool ?

[Spitfire Engineering]

nope what's this tool ?

E-mail address?

[Winstar]

nope what's this tool ?

SHARK?

[Spitfire Engineering]

nope what's this tool ?

SHARK?

Yes

[alanoo]

Ahem guys, remember this soft is not free

[Muncher]

I'm fitting Joe-Turbo's tie rod kit outside my house tomorrow....




Oh bollocks...

[Joe-Turbo]

I'm fitting Joe-Turbo's tie rod kit outside my house tomorrow....




Oh bollocks...

wear a rain mack mate

[Muncher]

I'm fitting Joe-Turbo's tie rod kit outside my house tomorrow....




Oh bollocks...

wear a rain mack mate

I've got a few on standby, along with a big sheet of plastic.

[kipper]

Well most of the time you'll be under the car, sheltered from the rain ..Us Miltec boys await the out come of the fitting of the brace bar with great anticipation.

[Spitfire Engineering]

I'm fitting Joe-Turbo's tie rod kit outside my house tomorrow....




Oh bollocks...

wear a rain mack mate

I've got a few on standby, along with a big sheet of plastic.

At least you are under the car out of the rain

[kipper]

I'm fitting Joe-Turbo's tie rod kit outside my house tomorrow....




Oh bollocks...

wear a rain mack mate

I've got a few on standby, along with a big sheet of plastic.

At least you are under the car out of the rain

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[Muncher]

A loooooooong day!

7.15 hours in the garage sorting it, due to testing bits, chatting and trying to get the old ones off which were a right pain in the backside to get off!

More of a write up to follow but in brief it fitted, but was just touching the exhaust. We think the brackets can be modified and with the use of a couple of 9mm spacers the two large undertray bolts can be done up to bring the undertray away from the subframe slightly and give enough clearance. Hopefully.

[kipper]

A loooooooong day!

7.15 hours in the garage sorting it, due to testing bits, chatting and trying to get the old ones off which were a right pain in the backside to get off!

More of a write up to follow but in brief it fitted, but was just touching the exhaust. We think the brackets can be modified and with the use of a couple of 9mm spacers the two large undertray bolts can be done up to bring the undertray away from the subframe slightly and give enough clearance. Hopefully.

Paul, If you put spacers uner the rear under tray, won't you run into problems mating the rear tray up to the engine tray?

[Muncher]

A loooooooong day!

7.15 hours in the garage sorting it, due to testing bits, chatting and trying to get the old ones off which were a right pain in the backside to get off!

More of a write up to follow but in brief it fitted, but was just touching the exhaust. We think the brackets can be modified and with the use of a couple of 9mm spacers the two large undertray bolts can be done up to bring the undertray away from the subframe slightly and give enough clearance. Hopefully.

Paul, If you put spacers uner the rear under tray, won't you run into problems mating the rear tray up to the engine tray?

No, that doesn't effect it. If you were to remove the 2 bolts in the centre of the undertray you will find that it drops down by about 15-20mm on it's own as it is just supported at the front and rear of the car. All we are planning to do is fill part of that "hanging" space with a spacer to clear the brace brackets. It makes virtually no difference to the angle of the tray at all. Today I had the rear undertray bolted to the main undertray and to the clam and had no issues securing it at all. Previously on my NA my cat section was touching on my undertray so I used spacers of about 3-4mm just to bring that away from the cat to stop them touching. I ran with them for about 18 months with no probs.

Whilst we're at it the spacers will be doing a few other useful things...

1. They'll have a nitrile layers which will have the effect of preventing any rattles or vibrations in the tray.

2. The nitrile layer will be slightly smaller than the bolt diameter therebye acting as a kind of locking washer. This will stop those two bolts coming loose or falling out, as on my car I lost 2 sets of those bolts over 3 years as there is no locking nut to stop those bolts loosening.

We're also adding a layer of heatshielding between the bar and the exhaust where they are very close together.

[Muncher]

How close it is to the Miltek



The tie rod kit fitted (brackets not fixed in place at that point so not level.



Brace bar offered up.

[Sam3703]

weather is not better these days in south west of france...

my VX's ready to receive the parts (and many others)



muncher would you be available sometime next week ? I would like to visit you, it seems you're not far from cambridge, are you ?

[Muncher]

weather is not better these days in south west of france...

my VX's ready to receive the parts (and many others)



muncher would you be available sometime next week ? I would like to visit you, it seems you're not far from cambridge, are you ?

Yeah sure, I'm about an hour's drive from cambridge.

[kipper]

How close it is to the Miltek



The tie rod kit fitted (brackets not fixed in place at that point so not level.



Brace bar offered up.

Paul, Thanks for the explanation of the spacing of the trays. The clearence between the exhaust and the brace bar seems pretty small. Have you a measurment on the separation ?
Have you tried the car under dynamic driving conditions for, contact between the brace and the exhaust caused by torque reactions on the engine mounts?

Regards

Dave K

[Muncher]

How close it is to the Miltek



The tie rod kit fitted (brackets not fixed in place at that point so not level.



Brace bar offered up.

Paul, Thanks for the explanation of the spacing of the trays. The clearence between the exhaust and the brace bar seems pretty small. Have you a measurment on the separation ?
Have you tried the car under dynamic driving conditions for, contact between the brace and the exhaust caused by torque reactions on the engine mounts?

No, it's pretty tricky to do and wouldn't prove much until the final brackets are in and bolted up tight. I'm looking for about 6mm of clearance, maybe up to 10mm.

Couldn't drive it like that really as it wasn't fully secured. Any movement in the exhaust should be minimal and it is a long, long way from the engine mount so that could not touch it.

Regards

Dave K

[kipper]

OK Paul, Let's wait until every thing is fitted and secured. 6-10 mm seems fine for clearence. Just to clarify the point about the engine mounts, under load the engine will move about its axis as a torque reaction, part of this movement might be transmitted to a movement of the exhuast system, eventhough there is a flexible section below the exhaust manifold. This might close the 6-10 mm gap by some degree. Best Regards Dave K