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#141 Muncher

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Posted 20 January 2008 - 06:00 PM

Yes, quite right, but I think the margins we are talking about will be sufficient to avoid any contact.

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Posted 20 January 2008 - 09:35 PM

Hi all,

Today I managed to find some free time (not easy : pregnant wife, small boy and house transfer... :rolleyes: )

Anyway, here are the results on a N/A Speedster (well :rolleyes: ) and a Milltek exhaust (a broom stick was sacrificed in the process) :

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Seems way too short....

As you can see, I could not even set the stick at the same level as the tie-rods bolts...

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If you need other pics, I can mail all of them (6)

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Posted 21 January 2008 - 11:03 AM

Can you mail the pics to sales@ip1hosting.net please? The bar doesn't have to sit flush with the subframe, in fact it can be extended about 60-70mm away from the rear of the car, not sure if that will give enough clearance looking at those pics or not.

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Posted 21 January 2008 - 12:33 PM

****Important Info*****

Right guys, as we first thought the brace bar is proving to be tricky to get to fit, due to the massive number of permutations of different exhausts and even to a certain extent how the system hangs in the car. The state of play as we see it at the moment:

VX220 with Scorpion Exhaust - Brace bar fits
VX220 with Miltek exhaust - having seen Marco Polo's photos it's marginal whether we can get it in there
VXT with Miltek Exhaust - Should fit with slightly altered brackets which we'll have this week

However until we get the kits out there and get data (photos) of the tie rod brackets in place we can't be sure what cars it will fit without issue, which ones can be made to fit with a universally altered bracket and which ones there's just no way of getting clearance due to the exhaust.

What we would like to do is get everyone's tie rod kit shipped and fitted as there is no doubts about this fitting whatsoever, then when it is fitted if you can take a photo showing a straight line from one bracket to another we can tell you whether we think a brace bar will fit in there. At this point you can pay the extra £100 + £5 postage and we'll send you a brace bar kit which should fit. To fit the brace bar kit onto a car with the tie rod kit fitted is a pretty simple job, just remove the rear undertray and bolt it on. The existing kit does not need to be removed and it can all be done on the ground behind the car, you don't even need to jack it up.

This should give us valuable data so we can amend the existing bracket designs and build up a picture of how the massive range of exhausts fit.

The only other way of proceeding would be for me to fit trial fit a bracket to a car every weekend with a different exhaust, then get them back to fit a modified bracket. That's a process which could mean a huge amount of work for me and could drag on for a long while!

The important part is the tie rod kit, that's the safety critical part and the part which wears out, causes knocking noises and can fail.

To keep things simple for me I'd like people to copy and paste the following, filling it in and posting me a cheque.


To:

Paul Munnings
IP1Hosting Ltd
43 Dryden Road
Ipswich
IP1 6QP


Forum name:
Name:
Address:
Postcode:
e-mail address:

Car type:
Year:
If turbo - outboard hubcarrier bolt size (Up to chassis no. N006995 = M10) (Post N006995 = M12):
Exhaust type (for information purposes only):

Tie Rod Kit = £225
Delivery outside UK = £240



I hope that's ok?

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Posted 21 January 2008 - 12:50 PM

I will send you the picture this evening... I will try to move the stick off the subframe by 60-70 mm... How can we pay from the other side of the Channel ? :rolleyes:

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Posted 21 January 2008 - 01:10 PM

I will send you the picture this evening...

I will try to move the stick off the subframe by 60-70 mm...


How can we pay from the other side of the Channel ?

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Paul Munnings
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43 Dryden Road
Ipswich IP1 6QP

Bank details:

BIC HLFXGB21L76
IBAN GB62HLFX11040500896211

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IP1 1DS

Roll No. D/38405715- 3
Sort Code 11-04-05
Account No 00896211


That should be enough to arrange a transfer :P

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Posted 21 January 2008 - 02:24 PM

Payment on it's way now. Thanks Paul! thumbsup

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Posted 21 January 2008 - 03:24 PM

Just about to send the first 4x kits off to Markv, Hamlet, Nickov and jfalesi. The complete weight of the old kit I took of Joe's car at the weekend was just over 2.2kg and the weight of the new Spitfire kit including all the brackets and bolts is bang on 2kg, so a 200g weight saving :P

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Posted 21 January 2008 - 04:00 PM

No extra cost for a shipping to France ? We are still talking about £ 225 (inc shipping) for the tie rod kit, then £ 105 (inc shipping) for the brace kit ? (the thread is getting long, I want to be sure I have missed no price change) chinky chinky

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Posted 21 January 2008 - 04:18 PM

Sorry, finally sorted out Courier prices today, the Royal Mail were too expensive and would only insure them up to £150! Spitfire Allowed £10 for postage to the UK and the best price I can get for insured postage to Europe is £27.23. Delivery to anywhere in Europe is therefore £242.23. I'm happy to post two kits to one person for the same price though as the courier charge doesn't change when an extra kit is in the parcel. Hope that clears it up.

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Posted 21 January 2008 - 06:14 PM

Hi Paul just to clarify, are you sending tie rods and brace bar to me? I've a 3 inch 2bular exhaust fitted to my car with a de-cat pipe (there is a bit of movement in the slip joints). I think it should be ok with the bar. Regards Niko

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Posted 21 January 2008 - 07:05 PM

DHL are collecting a package with just your tie rods in tomorrow. I only have one complete brace bar here at the moment which is being used for testing purposes. I'll send your brace bar as soon as it's finalised but in the meantime if you could fit the tie rods and take a photo between the two bolt heads that would help greatly. For the sake of an extra few pounds in shipping the brace bar later we can get some decent data to adjust the brackets and avoid the hassle of sending brace bars out only for them to be returned. On the NA the only real issue is the bend in the cat section, have you seen what the 3" tubular exhaust looks like yet?

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Posted 21 January 2008 - 10:30 PM

if you have some kits available, I can bring them back to france this week and send them from there (and keep one :groupjump: ) -> PM for the exhaust clearance I think one can adjust the brace width with a hammer :tumble: seriously as it is working in direct traction/compression thanks to the rod ends, there's little loss in performance if it is locally shrink to clear the exhaust. depends on the wall thikness, which I'm not aware of

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Posted 22 January 2008 - 09:35 AM

I'll ask Techieboy and see if we get ours delivered together he's just up the road. I send you some more money chinky chinky

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Posted 22 January 2008 - 01:31 PM

Ok Paul, Cheque in the post for £225 for the tie rod kit for 04 VXT (M12 outboard hub bolt size). Thanks Dave K

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Posted 22 January 2008 - 09:45 PM

1. Muncher - full brace kit 2. Nikov - Full kit inc brace bar for an 02 NA 3. L14MHA - full brace kit for an 03 VXT 4. Winstar - Full Brace Kit. 5. Myhifi - Full kit inc brace bar for an 02 NA (to France) 6. Hamlet - Tie Rod only Kit for an 01 NA (switzerland) 7. Tom - Full Brace kit VXT 8. Sam3703 - full brace kit (france or uk) 9. Dieamond Fullbrace kit 2003 NA (France) 10. Markv -2 x Tie rod kit only for an 02 NA (Netherlands) 11. Vince68 - Full brace kit for an 04 VXT (France) 12.Mikemph - Full Brace Kit 13. csl_freak - full kit for 02 n/a (Switzerland) 14.Kipper - Tie Rod Kit and Brace bar for 04 VXT 15.Mr_M - Tie Rod Kit and Brace bar for 03 VXT 16.Techieboy - Tie Rod kit with brace bar for 01 NA 17. two4oneuk - Tie Rod Kit and Brace bar for 03 VXT 18. toreide - Tie rod only kit for 01 Speedster (Norway) 19. severnless- full tie bar and brace bar kit for 03 VXT 20. Jfalesi - Full kit including brace bar for a 02 NA (can be delivered at Myhifi's smile.gif ) 21: slindborg - slotted washers only 22: Morgan9122 - Tie rod only for 02 NA 23: Joe-Turbo - Tie Rod Kit and Brace bar for 03 VXT 24: Nickb777 Tie rod for 02 NA 25: Ducati996Senna - Tie rod kit and brace for 03 VXT 26. Jasvxt - Tie rod kit (regardless of the brace fitment) and brace kit for 53 VXT, would prefer both kits together though 27. Markiii full tie rod kit with brace for VXR 28. Marco Polo - Full kit (as long as it can be fitted with a Miltek exhaust) for NA (France) 29. kek700 - full tie rod kit with brace for 01 NA 30. MAXR - Tie Rod kit with brace bar for 02 NA (Please can you supply minimum clearence dimensions as I'm about to fit a 3" exhaust system) 31. 2-20 - Full kit with brace for 02 NA (sent in Marco Polo's parcel to France)

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Posted 25 January 2008 - 01:05 PM

Got my tie rods thanks. I'll try fit them at the weekend if I get time. Cheque for PayPal is in the post Paul.

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Posted 26 January 2008 - 09:55 PM

Unfortunately I found this thread to late. You do not have an extra complete, tie rod and brace, kit for a VXT produced or if someone dropped out. If that is the case I want to buy it. Regards, Johan

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 11:47 AM

If there is any chance of still ordering a set of tie rods for the VXR let me know and I can send a cheque asap, I know Ive probably missed the boat on this one but thought I would ask as Ive just been paid lol. Darren....

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 01:06 PM

Yes you can have a tie rod kit, just send payment as per above.




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