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[GruFF]

Am I the only one that see's this thread turning into a TMS bashing thread? snoop, glad your car is driving better than it was - hope you get the other niggles sorted.

[Crazyfrog (Fab)]

running your own business is full of fun mine certainly is...... cant be always pink or la vie en rose lol specially with guest like tim

Edited by crazyfrog, 29 August 2008 - 10:02 PM.

[Timbo]

running your own business is full of fun mine certainly is...... cant be always pink or la vie en rose lol
specially with guest like tim

I hope your not referring to me Fab, i was a model customer (where did you say your meat comes from again lol).
We will be visiting again very soon

[TonyKL]

running your own business is full of fun mine certainly is...... cant be always pink or la vie en rose lol
specially with guest like tim

I hope your not referring to me Fab, i was a model customer (where did you say your meat comes from again lol).
We will be visiting again very soon

Time, model customer? I dont think so :-)
Tim, let me know next time you go as it sounded a great place from your previous visit.

[RobNA]

Admittedly part of that was my fault for asking for the rolling road run (I had assumed that it was a standard part of the remap, but obviously it is not - and had I known it cost £65 + VAT I would not have had it done).

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[Sicey]

running your own business is full of fun mine certainly is...... cant be always pink or la vie en rose lol
specially with guest like tim

I hope your not referring to me Fab, i was a model customer (where did you say your meat comes from again lol).
We will be visiting again very soon

Time, model customer? I dont think so :-)
Tim, let me know next time you go as it sounded a great place from your previous visit.

Yeah I would be interested in that, we can have a chat with Fab on Monday and then relay it to Timbo at the Windsor meet

[markiii]

My TMS Stage 2 on teh VXR with no CC is pushing 250bhp and 280lbft (according to Courtenays dyno) so a VXR Turbo, VXR injectors, CC and stage 4 MAP should be delivery more than mine, let alone more than yours.

[Pooh Bear]

Admittedly part of that was my fault for asking for the rolling road run (I had assumed that it was a standard part of the remap, but obviously it is not - and had I known it cost £65 + VAT I would not have had it done).

Post number 85 in this thread second paragraph...

[siztenboots]

Hey Tim Make sure you get a rare steak , not a medium.

Edited by siztenboots, 31 August 2008 - 09:57 PM.

[Crazyfrog (Fab)]

Hey Tim

Make sure you get a rare steak , not a medium.

Tim doesn't need rare steak btw
i think he prefer them well done and burnt like is tyres
had to clean my car park last time he made a appearance to my place
ps watch top gear tonight and thought of you when he was wreaking the Bentley tyres

[Crazyfrog (Fab)]

running your own business is full of fun mine certainly is...... cant be always pink or la vie en rose lol
specially with guest like tim

I hope your not referring to me Fab, i was a model customer (where did you say your meat comes from again lol).
We will be visiting again very soon

oh no ............

[Nightwalker]

oh dear.

Admittedly part of that was my fault for asking for the rolling road run (I had assumed that it was a standard part of the remap, but obviously it is not - and had I known it cost £65 + VAT I would not have had it done).

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[Angelplayz]

In the interests of fairness, was the re-map not done for free, and if so why would TMS NOT charge for the RR?? Just a thought as if it was done for free it would be a little unfair to ask them to do the dyno for free too. Also in the interests of fairness (and I mean that as I am not a big fan of "tuners" in general at the moment due to 2 friends of mine going to a certain tuner, not TMS I might add, with identical 08 reg cars ((Corsa VXR's)) and paying the same amount for a S1 tune only to get 2 completely different figures, and then to be told it was their fault because of the way they had worn the engines in, something I was under the impression you didn't need to do any more!?!) I would always make sure I had a fixed price set in stone before I asked anyone to do any work on my car, and would ask that they contacted me should the car require any further work so I could confirm if I were happy for that to be done at an extra cost (and to give me the chance to work out if they were being realistic with their costings) If I then came back to find extra, unauthorized, additions I would argue them out. I do have to say though (and I've said this before) but when I did have my stage 1 done it never went onto the dyno, although at the time I wasn't aware it should so didn't think anything of it. That was nearly 3 years ago though so maybe things have changed. I was always happy with the way the car drove after the remap and had or have no complaints, other than the fact that I don't have any figures to show what the car was pushing out. To explain, although I could "feel" what I had paid my hard earned for, I had no "Actual Proof" of what I had. I also had no way of guaging whether I had got what I had paid for or not, although extra power was not the reason I myself had gone for a stage 1 on an N/A as opposed to raising the rev limit and making the car that little bit more drivable.

Edited by Angelplayz, 01 September 2008 - 07:41 AM.

[siztenboots]

S1 tune only to get 2 completely different figures, and then to be told it was their fault because of the way they had worn the engines in, something I was under the impression you didn't need to do any more!?!)

there is some good evidence that driving the car from new using all the rev range and at 100% for periods is beneficial to getting the combustion chambers and piston rings to properly bed in.

it was something you always noticed in the company car fleet with identical reps cars, some were much quicker.

[techieboy]

S1 tune only to get 2 completely different figures, and then to be told it was their fault because of the way they had worn the engines in, something I was under the impression you didn't need to do any more!?!)

there is some good evidence that driving the car from new using all the rev range and at 100% for periods is beneficial to getting the combustion chambers and piston rings to properly bed in.

it was something you always noticed in the company car fleet with identical reps cars, some were much quicker.

Exactly what Audi told me to do when I collected my new car. Drive it gently for 20 minutes until it's fully up to temperature and then give it some welly through the gears, using the full rev range (where possible) and allow the turbo to cool down properly before turning off. Never stick at a certain number of revs for an extended period of time in the first few thousand miles. My car hardly uses a drop of oil as a result, whereas others I know get through a litre every couple of thousand miles (Audi engines are particularly thirsty for oil, for some reason).

[Guy182]

S1 tune only to get 2 completely different figures, and then to be told it was their fault because of the way they had worn the engines in, something I was under the impression you didn't need to do any more!?!)

there is some good evidence that driving the car from new using all the rev range and at 100% for periods is beneficial to getting the combustion chambers and piston rings to properly bed in.

it was something you always noticed in the company car fleet with identical reps cars, some were much quicker.

if they are 08 corsa vxr's the engines are still going to be very tight anyway!

every single engine is different

[slindborg]

S1 tune only to get 2 completely different figures, and then to be told it was their fault because of the way they had worn the engines in, something I was under the impression you didn't need to do any more!?!)

there is some good evidence that driving the car from new using all the rev range and at 100% for periods is beneficial to getting the combustion chambers and piston rings to properly bed in.

it was something you always noticed in the company car fleet with identical reps cars, some were much quicker.

Exactly what Audi told me to do when I collected my new car. Drive it gently for 20 minutes until it's fully up to temperature and then give it some welly through the gears, using the full rev range (where possible) and allow the turbo to cool down properly before turning off. Never stick at a certain number of revs for an extended period of time in the first few thousand miles. My car hardly uses a drop of oil as a result, whereas others I know get through a litre every couple of thousand miles (Audi engines are particularly thirsty for oil, for some reason).

its the load/lift off that does the work of bedding in treat em mean keep em keen is the old saying

There was a problem with the Pinto engine snapping cam shafts when fitted to Sierras but never in the Transit. Turned out that the Tranny drivers start up and trash the bollocks off the engine so oil pressure was up immediately, where as the Sierras were driven "gently" by comparrisson and the pressure didnt get up and dried the cams out lol

[cheeky_chops]

every single engine is different

i just dont buy that - companies spend 100's of millions developing engines, ECU's and their manufacturing process, down to tolerances of thous. And then someone just ends up with a "good'un"...?

[snoopstah]

I would always make sure I had a fixed price set in stone before I asked anyone to do any work on my car, and would ask that they contacted me should the car require any further work so I could confirm if I were happy for that to be done at an extra cost (and to give me the chance to work out if they were being realistic with their costings) If I then came back to find extra, unauthorized, additions I would argue them out.

John tells me they don't do fixed price quotes for work on VXs these days.

[2GOOD]

every single engine is different

i just dont buy that - companies spend 100's of millions developing engines, ECU's and their manufacturing process, down to tolerances of thous. And then someone just ends up with a "good'un"...?

Back in my days of being a VX salesman The VX220 turbo varied more from car to car than anything else I have ever experienced, my first & last demonstrators* were by far the quickest of about 5 or 6 cars. I ran them all in myself, treated them as if they were my own etc. (seriously, actually I did!)