181 replies to this topic

[myles]

Never going to happen, that being the company putting this car through the mangler. Shame on the breaker selling to the present owner, they must have known the owner wanted it breaking to keep it off the streets.

[XXX]

Apart from the current situation, the real shitbag in all this is the twat that suffered the damage and covered it up in the first place. Top bloke  

 

I don't think any of us can truly say we know how dangerous this car is, and some of the comments may have been an over-reaction as it isn't just gonna fall apart but, ffs, the current owners are aware and chose not to mention the chasis damage. Not good by any standards, is it?

[V For Vendetta]

If BG03 TFV had at the time of its crash been subject to an insurance claim it would with out doubt been a Cat B. Lets just suppose it was made a Cat C, if it was taken in for a VIC with that rip in the chassis there is no way the examiner would let that back out on the road. I think the point many people here are making is that it's not the fact that the car has traveled X amount of miles since the accident, but more that if it was involved in a seemingly minor prang the occupants may find the vehicle wanting.

[JohnTurbo]

The examiner would be perfectly happy with it unless you'd repaired it by welding on the back half of another car.

Edited by JohnTurbo, 06 September 2013 - 10:23 PM.

[MAXR]

My car is apparently a CAT B. However, it has never had any chassis damage. I had it checked over before buying it as a "Track Slag." It is as straight & clean as they come (around 16k miles from new & only occasionally used for a sunday morning cruise). No doubt, most of the panels are not original...so its a bit like Trigger's broom in that respect.

 

However, this car is a potential death trap. Breaking it is the way to go. Just make sure you don't accidentally drive it into a tree, that would be so unfortunate!

 

Max 

 

 

[V For Vendetta]

VIC website info The test takes about 20 minutes and is a check of the cars identity, not the quality of its repairs. However, if the VIC inspector notices a serious defect which would make the car dangerous to drive they may issue a prohibition notice. This means the car cant be driven until its made roadworthy and the prohibition notice is removed. Personally speaking, I would have thought a ripped chassis would fall into this category. I am simply going by the picture of the car in a previous post.

[vocky]

just in case anyone has forgotten how bad the chassis damage is

 

please note the ripped chassis (top left of damage), the deformed upper fuel tank closure panel and the tear where it joined the floor

 

This is not minor damage, it is severe chassis damage

 

 

 

 

 

Edited by vocky, 07 September 2013 - 07:31 AM.

[anz3001]

VIC website info

The test takes about 20 minutes and is a check of the cars identity, not the quality of its repairs.

However,  if the VIC inspector notices a serious defect which would make the car dangerous to drive they may issue a prohibition notice. This means the car cant be driven until its made roadworthy and the prohibition notice is removed.


Personally speaking, I would have thought a ripped chassis would fall into this category. I am simply going by the picture of the car in a previous post.

 

Trouble is, he wont, you cant see this damage it only came to light after the ears were removed iirc

[vocky]

the saga continues, the chassis repair looks well executed but obviously any potential owner needs to get that professionally checked out

 

before

 

 

after welding

 

Edited by vocky, 04 December 2016 - 07:24 PM.

[turbo2015]

ooh sh*t the one on ebay...

 

http://www.ebay.co.u...WAAAOSwux5YOx38

[vocky]

at least the current owner was aware of the damage and is pointing out the repair to any potential new owner, this thread started because somebody bought it without knowing the history.

 

To be fair it would be a perfect track slag, I just hope in the future it doesn't get sold to an unsuspecting buyer - again !

[The Batman]

Parts car imo, scrap the chassis

[jonnyboy]

Bearing in mind you can have a nice high speed accident on track I dont think I'd be happy with that.

[JG]

Just squash the whole thing.

[turbo2015]

did this end with a happy story.... did the 1st owner end up buy his dream vx....great guy for doing the right thing! hat off to you sir if your still around.

[Nev]

To me it looks like it has been repaired with care and consideration, though without actually inspecting it personally (particularly the internal webbing and weld pen) it's hard to be sure. To dismiss it without an objective inspection is what people do when they don't understand that something can be repaired, and repaired well.

 

People seem to forget that just 25+ years ago people were happily racing cars around that were structurally way weaker than this. Just think of the number of Peugeout 205s, Astra Mk1s, Citroen AX etc etc that used to be ragged around, they crumpled like a paper bag if you hit a wall at 30 MPH. Yet for some reason this car is deemed "binable" by armchair critics even though they haven't inspected it and it is most likely stronger than all those 80s "sports cars".

 

To think that a critical structure can't sometimes be repaired well is simply wrong, there are umpteen examples of crumbled bridges, bent aeroplanes, subsided buildings, broken lifts, melted space shuttles etc etc, all of which many of us have used in blind and safe ignorance.

 

Objectivity is required, rather than finger waggling at a couple of pictures.

 

 

Edited by Nev, 06 December 2016 - 09:01 AM.

[vocky]

you can clearly see in the photo where the chassis glue has been burn't away, which is why they say a vx chassis should never be welded 

[Nev]

Which bit Vocky? My experience of the glue in these things is that it is quite variable how much each car has oozing out of the gaps, though that is not to say that some of it hasn't been meted.

Edited by Nev, 06 December 2016 - 09:09 AM.

[vocky]

The most obvious bit is the V section to the left of the photo - what would be underneath the black side sill

 

Obviously you cannot see inside the glued chassis section, but the heat required to weld alloy will probably have burn't that too.

 

But as a track car it should be okay, as a road car probably not

[Nev]

Ah yes, I think I see the bit you mean.

 

Personally I think the vast surface area of the flat surface to flat surface chemical bonds will be stupidly strong anyway, losing a few CM of glue on long spars won't necessarily affect it (if it is only localised melting) IMO, subject to inspection.

 

I built a complex ocean going boat out of epoxy in the early 90s. I know how strong it is.

Edited by Nev, 06 December 2016 - 09:10 AM.