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#1 SteveA

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Posted 10 April 2009 - 04:25 PM

I've had my car a while now and while on a trackday thought it had a bit too much body roll so I decided to buy an uprated ARB. I bought the Eliseparts s2 adjustable anti-roll bar as it was a good price, came with nylatron bushes, is stronger than the original and obviously is adjustable. The uprated part is a direct replacement for the OEM one.

Disclaimer - This guide is aimed at those with some mechanical experience but is easy enough to be followed by all. If you mess it up tho, don't shout at me.

Tools you will need.
Two Jacks (or one jack and axel stands)
Torque wrench
17mm socket
17mm spanner (preferably ratchet spanner but not essential)
8mm socket
Ratchet
Rivet gun
Drill + various drill bits
6mm allen key (or hex bit with extenders if you don't mind a bit of modding)
Flat Head screwdriver


Jack up the front of the car so that both wheels are off the floor. Secure the elevated car with axel stands and remove both wheels. Now remove the front under tray using an 8mm socket and a ratchet to take out all 10 bolts.

The anti-roll bar is attached to the chassis by two brackets and each end is bolted to the ARB drop links.
To disconnect the drop links from the ARB, it is simply a case of using a 17mm socket on the nut which is holding it together. Unfortunately because of the way drop links are made the internal joint will just spin around inside. To stop this push back the rubber boot on the link to reveal a joint that you can put a 17mm spanner on to stop it from rotating. Use this method to remove the nuts on each side.

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Chassis brackets are held on by two bolts fastened from the wishbone side. These are in quite awkward positions and make it a bit of a nightmare to remove them. The top bolt is obscured by a part of the aluminium frame but this has a hole in it (about 8mm) to allow an allen key to be inserted. This makes things quite difficult as the bolt is not accessible with a hex bolt and ratchet. The allen key way allows you to turn the bolt about a quarter of a turn per go. Using this method it took me nearly 15 minutes for one bolt. I decided that this was too hard so I used a drill to widen the hole out to 10mm. This allows a hex bit with two extenders to be used. It took less than a minute to get the second top bolt out.

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The lower bolts are obscured by the lower wishbones and cannot be removed without moving them. You could remove the wishbone completely but I found you can just take the bolt closest to the front of the car out and knock it up a little using a piece of wood and a mallet. With the wishbone out of the way an allen key or the hex bit with extenders and ratchet can be used to unscrew the lower bolts.

Although the ARB is disconnected there are two aluminium panels riveted to the chassis and crash box preventing the bar from being taken out.

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Drill the three rivets out and use a flat head screw driver prise the panel off the crash box.

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Here is the bracket removed from the car

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With these out of the way, lower the ARB out and put the new one in. Make sure you use plenty of lubricant between the new bushes and bar.

Then basically reverse the removal procedure to put everything back together. The only thing I changed when putting everything back together is to replace the lower bolts with some stainless socket head M8 25mm ones I had left over from another project (As you can see in the second photo). This made it loads easier to refit and will mean the wishbones won't need to be moved in future if I need to take them out.

The new ARB has five holes for adjustment, the closer to the front of the car the drop link is the stiffer the bar. If hole number one is the closest to the front of the car, I compared it against the old bar which was equivalent to hole number four. I set it to hole number three to make it a bit stiffer than standard. If I need it stiffer I will move it at a later date.

Edited by SteveA, 10 April 2009 - 04:31 PM.


#2 Winstar

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Posted 10 April 2009 - 05:39 PM

Chassis brackets are held on by two bolts fastened from the wishbone side. These are in quite awkward positions and make it a bit of a nightmare to remove them. The top bolt is obscured by a part of the aluminium frame but this has a hole in it (about 8mm) to allow an allen key to be inserted. This makes things quite difficult as the bolt is not accessible with a hex bolt and ratchet. The allen key way allows you to turn the bolt about a quarter of a turn per go


I got an allen key from a cheap set i had and cut it just before the bend on the long side, you can then put this in the socket head bolt then use a socket and ratchet on the other end.

Edited by Winstar, 10 April 2009 - 05:40 PM.


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Posted 10 April 2009 - 05:47 PM

using a torque wrench to undo things FTL... thats now even less calibrated than it might have ever hinted at being :(

#4 SteveA

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Posted 10 April 2009 - 11:37 PM

The torque wrench was to tighten things, as you can tell by the fact the new ARB is on but hey what difference does it make?

Edited by SteveA, 10 April 2009 - 11:39 PM.


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Posted 11 April 2009 - 10:17 AM

Great guide, cheers mate thumbsup Something I've been thinking about doing, tho I had no idea those plates were there to prevent it being removed, is there definately no way you could remove it by sliding it out from one side :unsure:

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Posted 11 April 2009 - 10:24 AM

No, I did waste some time trying when I fitted mine. The only way you could do it would be to straighten the ARB. Maybe okay for removing the old one but probably not ideal for the new one. :o Geary's instructions say that it's not necessary to replace the little bit of aluminium plate (certainly doesn't do anything structural) but I did as it was just a simple matter of 3 rivets per side and I don't intend taking the ARB off again as it's adjustable in-situ.

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Posted 11 April 2009 - 08:00 PM

Please post your results about the new ARB's handling. Very interested in this...

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Posted 12 April 2009 - 01:36 AM

Taking it out tomorrow but don't think i'll get a true picture until the nurburgring in May.

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Posted 13 April 2009 - 02:59 PM

Been out today and the car is understeering signigicantly more. I did expect a little more understeer in the wet but in the dry like today I expected it to feel better. Perhaps it's set a bit too stiff or my Bridgestones aren't doing the business when loaded on. Going to stick my r888's on and move the droplinks back a position. Maybe adjust my bump & rebound settings and try that. Will update with findings.

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 01:13 PM

great guide :)

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 12:40 PM

After finally removing my drop link nuts which were seized and in no hurry to come out i cant see how to refit the new ARB. In this guide it looks as though eliseshop have provided a different bush than they have provided me. My bush comes with one hole in it and a stainless insert, ive also been provided with a longer M10 bolt which looks as though goes through the bush and the wishbone mounting. Has anyone fitted one recently? Am i just supposed to use this one bolt when the standard one had its own mounting?

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 01:53 PM

Yep, you've got the version that has the big nylatron block bush that needs mounting through the wishbone mounting hole. You just lose the original bushes and brackets.

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 02:33 PM

Yep, you've got the version that has the big nylatron block bush that needs mounting through the wishbone mounting hole. You just lose the original bushes and brackets.


Thankyou. Just wanted to check before i put everything back together thumbsup

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Posted 17 September 2011 - 08:03 AM


Yep, you've got the version that has the big nylatron block bush that needs mounting through the wishbone mounting hole. You just lose the original bushes and brackets.


Thankyou. Just wanted to check before i put everything back together thumbsup


Good buy fella :D

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 10:17 PM

After finally removing my drop link nuts which were seized and in no hurry to come out i cant see how to refit the new ARB. In this guide it looks as though eliseshop have provided a different bush than they have provided me. My bush comes with one hole in it and a stainless insert, ive also been provided with a longer M10 bolt which looks as though goes through the bush and the wishbone mounting. Has anyone fitted one recently? Am i just supposed to use this one bolt when the standard one had its own mounting?


I've just spent a couple of hours getting the old ARB out, but the "uprated" eliseshop one I have to replace it uses the nylon bush/longer wishbone bolt, but I'm really not happy with how this will mount because of the bung that's in the way: -

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This leaves a gap :-

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Does anyone know what function the bung serves and if it's okay to hack it off?

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 10:36 PM

if you want to write off your vx then remove it, but that is not a good idea :huh:

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 11:05 PM

No, I didn't think so. The red bonding is a bit of a give away :D

Still leaves me with a gap that's surely going to introduce a bit of instability that the harder bush is meant to prevent thumbsdown

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 11:11 PM

which is why I chose the type which fits the original brackets, however your style mountings are quite solid when fully installed

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 11:27 PM

Hmm..... Superglue and some washers as shims it is then. Moral of this story for anyone who stumbles on this when searching is DON'T GET THE ELISESHOP ARB IF YOU'RE A PICKY BUGGER LIKE ME!

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Posted 29 December 2011 - 12:31 AM

cf :P




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