156 replies to this topic

[Winstar]

I've been advised to change the chain because if it goes in future it'd prob take the timing chain with it, so better safe than sorry.

Is it best to take the engine out? my friend doing the work says it looks quite tight where it is.

do not change the balancer shaft spockets when you do the chain, they are almost imposible to get off and even harder to torque up properly

[The Batman]

Glad it is just a couple of bent valves and nothing worse. But what is all this talk about taking the engine out to do some valves and new timing chain?!?! Can't read through all the pages as am busy at work

[theolodian]

the chain can be reused as your not driving the heavy balancer shafts, just the pump and idlers.
this guy did

I think the question here is if you should re-use the balance shaft chain after the cam chain has broken. It could have been damaged by the broken chain, just as a broken balance shaft chain might take out a cam chain. I would be reluctant to do it.

If the engine comes out then do a balance shaft delete I would say. I did. Vocky cuts down the shafts to act as idlers. (I am sure that he would appreciate the donation of balance shafts off any dead engines too.) You can't do the shafts with the engine in the car, and I wouldn't pull the engine just to do them.

I re-used my old balance shaft chain, it is only running idlers and the water pump. This also means that you don't have to worry about lining anything up on the balance shaft chain, just throw it back in. (The oil pump is run from the front pulley with its own gubbins, not by either chain.)

[AliM]

riiiiiiiight...... you've all totally lost me now

[AliM]

For anyone who's interested in changing theirs, I got my timing chain kit for £94.35 delivered from an ebay seller, vauxhallpartswarehouse. Thanks to rsg for the linky

[haggi961]

hey all i was wondering when do the timing chains need changed as my is 52 with 25k on the clock should i get it done soon or wait next year for the service again.

[mandarinvx]

hey all i was wondering when do the timing chains need changed as my is 52 with 25k on the clock should i get it done soon or wait next year for the service again.

If you have the old chain then they can go at any time, tho tends to be 60k+

Vauxhall quoted me around £650 + VAT for labour only to change it

[haggi961]

hey all i was wondering when do the timing chains need changed as my is 52 with 25k on the clock should i get it done soon or wait next year for the service again.

If you have the old chain then they can go at any time, tho tends to be 60k+

Vauxhall quoted me around £650 + VAT for labour only to change it

ok cheers mate and bloody hell its not cheap lol

[Sutol]

I got mine done FOC under a rework. Vxl did tell me that it would have cost me £900.

[theolodian]

hey all i was wondering when do the timing chains need changed as my is 52 with 25k on the clock should i get it done soon or wait next year for the service again.

If you have the old chain then they can go at any time, tho tends to be 60k+

Vauxhall quoted me around £650 + VAT for labour only to change it

ok cheers mate and bloody hell its not cheap lol

It's not like the stealership is the best place to get it done in any way.

[Steve B]

I spoke to vauxhall to try and determine if mine had been done or not as it had a full vauxhall service history and is on 44,000miles. They coulnd't tell me as I had to go in person to where the services were done (b'ham - i'm in oxford) but they passed me to GM's helpline, GM told me my car had had recall work done and registered for the rear alloys and something else I forget what.. anyway they said there has been no recall on the engines and there should be no issue and I should just have it serviced to the service schedule. So for those that got it done as a "rework" how if GM say theres no issue? They said there is an update to parts but its not something they would do or have done a "rework / recall" for, customer would have to pay as part of normal service schedule and updated parts would be fitted via that method.

[techieboy]

The rework was done only if a customer complained and/or there were timing chain issues. Think the possibility of getting it done gratis expired last year.

[Yellow_or_black?]

So for those that got it done as a "rework" how if GM say theres no issue? They said there is an update to parts but its not something they would do or have done a "rework / recall" for, customer would have to pay as part of normal service schedule and updated parts would be fitted via that method.

If you have a look at the link I included above, it is called a 'Field Remedy', and as the text explains - the work was carried out in the cases of customers complaining. It wasn't a recall. The same document describes the uprated part which was fitted

[JG]

The rework was done only if a customer complained and/or there were timing chain issues. Think the possibility of getting it done gratis expired last year.

I think it might even be longer than that Matt,

I had mine done under warranty as it was running out, and that would have been july 06. They said then they were only doing it retrospectively under unique conditions ( i was never let in on what those might be).

[Crazyfrog (Fab)]

spoke to vauxhall and even will a full vauxhall service history from the same dealer and bought from brand new they wouldn't help at all
so bought a kit last week and will do it next month with others job

[techieboy]

Just checked on the Z22SE site and it looks like the field remedy/rework bulletin expired at the end of 2007. Seems like it was totally hit and miss whether you could get a dealer to do anything about it in the first place.

[Winstar]

From Z22SE

Field Remedy: 1532
Subject: Engine Z22SE - Broken Timing Chain
Models: Engines: Option:
Astra-G 2000...2002,VX220 2000...2002,Speedster 2000...2002,Zafira 2000...2002,Vectra-B 2000...2001 Z22SE,Z22SE,Z22SE,Z22SE,Z22SE
Complaint: Engine damaged by broken timing chain.
Cause: Missing or unsufficient lubrication of the timing chain.
Production: Modified timing chain and lubrication nozzle have been introduced in production as of the following engine-No: 11065400 (March 2002).

Remedy:
Note: Please check first if the car is included in Service Campaign 03-P-24.

In case of customer complaint please use for the necessary repair the timing
chain kit. This kit contains the modified timing chain and lubrication nozzle.
Note: This Quick Information is valid for all Z22SE engines upon customer
complaint.
Spare-Parts: Qty: Part-No.: Catalog-No.:
Timing Chain Repair Kit 1 12577385 56 36 400
Gasket, Cover, Oil Pump 1 90537915 06 46 295
Gasket, Cylinder Head Cover 1 90537319 06 07 494
Gasket, Oil Pump to Cylinder Block 1 24435052 06 46 902
Seal, Ring, Crankshaft Front 1 90571925 06 38 199
Screw, Hex. HD., Damper to Crankshaft 1 90537363 06 14 927
Labour Times: TC: Hours:
U3 153 20 Install timing chain service kit Astra G, 92 3.0
Astra G Coupe, Astra G Convertible
U3 153 21 Install timing chain service kit Zafira A 92 3.3
U3 153 22 Install timing chain service kit 92 3.7
Vectra B (w/o A/C)
001 Additional work Vectra B(with Air Condition) 92 1.1
U3 153 23 Install timing chain service kit 92 4.6
Speedster, VX220
U3 153 24 Repair engine 92
The costs for this repair will be covered for vehicles until 31.12.2007 and
a mileage lower than 100.000 Km.
The regular warranty procedure should be used for claiming Set-up-time.

edit: beaten to it

Edited by Winstar, 14 September 2009 - 01:44 PM.

[Sutol]

Just checked on the Z22SE site and it looks like the field remedy/rework bulletin expired at the end of 2007. Seems like it was totally hit and miss whether you could get a dealer to do anything about it in the first place.

Mine was done under a rework in June 2007

[G-Bob]

Just checked on the Z22SE site and it looks like the field remedy/rework bulletin expired at the end of 2007. Seems like it was totally hit and miss whether you could get a dealer to do anything about it in the first place.

Mine was done under a rework in June 2007

Suppose I should really get mine changed at 78k!

[d4nnyk]

So if you have the revised version, at what mileage is it advised to replace the timing chain??