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[mandarinvx]

I spent the day at Gaz Shocks yesterday, to trial fit and set up the valving / spring rates for their new monotube kits - they certainly look the part









We shortened the front damper a little to minimise droop, the car was set to 120mm front, 130mm rear (although that has now settled a bit, so I'll have to make a few adjustments to the ride height)

Initial impressions are bloody fantastic, the ride is actually smoother than with the Gold kit fitted - I've yet to have a proper play with the damping adjustment tho

The kit will be released later this year

[theolodian]

Cool. Where are they going to be positioned price-wise vs. their other products? Cheers.

[mandarinvx]

I'm not entirely sure - I think they will be ~£800 mark

[slindborg]

are the fronts going to be long enough to get std ride height if desired?

[The Batman]

are the fronts going to be long enough to get std ride height if desired?

theres always one................. and its always you

[slindborg]

are the fronts going to be long enough to get std ride height if desired?

theres always one................. and its always you

I like to be consistent

not the end of the world if they cant, I'd just get new front mounts made to permit it

[Winstar]

are the fronts going to be long enough to get std ride height if desired?

are the rears going to be long enough not to dent the wishbones?

[mandarinvx]

are the fronts going to be long enough to get std ride height if desired?

are the fronts going to be long enough to get std ride height if desired?

are the rears going to be long enough not to dent the wishbones?

If I get a chance I'll do a few 'tests'

(with 500lb springs I don't imagine the wishbone denting issue will be too much to worry about)

[slindborg]

are the fronts going to be long enough to get std ride height if desired?

are the rears going to be long enough not to dent the wishbones?

well the std billies arent long enough, oh and the fabled nitrons too

Edited by slindborg, 19 September 2009 - 07:05 PM.

[182ian]

Would these be comparable to these nitrons then? Nitron Street Seies Which they are saying will be £650

[siztenboots]

will they have lots of droop , to give plenty of wheel articulation , don't like it when you take out a VX on a bumpy test route and you can feel the individual wheels get airbourne usually a problem where the springs are too soft, so the damping rate is set too stiff causing it to react too slow to road undulations

[mandarinvx]

I think they are more along the lines of the standard Nitron single-way adjustables

[mandarinvx]

will they have lots of droop , to give plenty of wheel articulation , don't like it when you take out a VX on a bumpy test route and you can feel the individual wheels get airbourne

usually a problem where the springs are too soft, so the damping rate is set too stiff causing it to react too slow to road undulations

I'll try and measure it

I don't imagine there will be much as it's a compromise between droop and the springs dislocating from the collet, in this case with 8" rear and 6" front springs they have stopped the springs dislocating - it may be an option to use a helper spring

Edited by mandarinvx, 19 September 2009 - 07:33 PM.

[Strugs]

I'll have your Golds off you once you start enjoying your new free set of monotubes as a result of this!

[cnrandall]

Looks like pistils at dawn in the damper market! I fitted the first set of Nitron street series last week which were incredibly impressive for the price and will be going head to head with these damper which, to be fair, look pretty smart too.

[theolodian]

Looks like pistils at dawn in the damper market! I fitted the first set of Nitron street series last week which were incredibly impressive for the price and will be going head to head with these damper which, to be fair, look pretty smart too.

Theo gets out his popcorn and his penny jar.

[Retset]

usually a problem where the springs are too soft, so the damping rate is set too stiff causing it to react too slow to road undulations

I still don't understand anything like enough about suspension but my talks with Chris Randall, and the way he has set my car up, have convinced me that stiff springing with softish damping are a good way to go.

OK, nitrons with helpers are better but out of budget

Those Gaz look lush BTW

[chris_uk]

are the fronts going to be long enough to get std ride height if desired?

are the rears going to be long enough not to dent the wishbones?

since mine i have seen dented wishbones on standard suspension.. so i dont think it should be a problem.

[cnrandall]

You're right in saying the stock suspension can bottom to the extend of bending wishbones which is why the issue has followed through on the aftermarket stuff. I spent a day with Nitron last week covering this problem again and have now come up with another new spec with much longer bodies which gives loads more droop travel and makes the bottoming impossible unless you drop the car off a cliff or something!

[sc-009]

Looks like pistils at dawn in the damper market! I fitted the first set of Nitron street series last week which were incredibly impressive for the price and will be going head to head with these damper which, to be fair, look pretty smart too.

Hi Chris. Have Nitron contracted you to exclusively selling their damper products? Just wondering if your 'commitment' to them is becuase you have to or because you just dont think anything else is worth considering (to date).

If you are honestly more open to more cost effective solutions such as the GAZ products and are genuinely interested would you like a closer look? Elise kit a couple of weeks away.



I'd spoken to a number of people about bending and its clear the problem is caused by damper 'bottoming' it's actually doing what it's designed to. You dont really want to increase bump travel so much that the wheel impacts the clam (front for sure, never checked the rear). It does seem to be more of an issue at the back and maybe there is enough clearance to give more bump travel. Maybe something like the Toyota Bilstein S2 kit on the earlier cars. Of course, many sports car designers moved away from this style of wishbone with in-built bending moments.