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[Jon]

After much thought and deliberation I'm selling my M32 kit for my VX, I’m just never going to get the time to install let alone reap the benefit of it . I put this gear kit together and selected the 3.94 final drive as I calculated this to offer the best accereration for my Supercharged VX given its rev range whilst being aware not to make 1st gear redundant. If any one want the gear calculator done with a different rev range i.e. 7000 rpm then l can this.
It’s a complete kit of parts that will enable anyone to bolt straight in and have an OEM set up. Here’s what it consists off:

Brand New M32 2.2 (front starter gearbox) with 3.94 Final Drive.
M32 2.2 Flywheel and Clutch Pack inc Flywheel Bolts
M32 2.2 Slave Cylinder & Release Bearing
Brand new Lotus Europa Gearbox Mounts x3
Brand new Lotus Europa Drive Shafts complete with Inner & Outer CV Joints
Brand new Lotus Europa Gear Lever & Hand brake assy with Cable Lift Reverse.
Brand new Lotus Europa Reverse Gear Selection Cable
Brand new Lotus Europa Gear Selection Cables
Choice of 2 one leather one alloy Lotus Europa Gear Knobs.

The cost new for all this is over £4600 which is silly really!! . The box alone is £2413 from Vxl!!!

I would like to get around £2500 for it all.




Here is the gear change comparison and rev comparison between this M32 an the Standard F23, so you can see the change up points this clearly shoes the benefits to 2nd 3rd 4th and 5th.




Ratio / Speed Comparison 2.2 Gearbox’s Based on 6300 rpm limit



Gearbox:- M32 3.94 Final DriveTyre:- Standard VX220 Bridgestone


Top Gear gives 25.310 MPH/1000 RPM and a top speed of 159.451 MPH at 6300 RPM

Engine speeds in top gear:-
30 MPH = 1185 RPM 40 MPH = 1580 RPM 50 MPH = 1976 RPM 60 MPH = 2371 RPM
70 MPH = 2766 RPM 80 MPH = 3161 RPM 90 MPH = 3556 RPM 100 MPH = 3951 RPM

Top Speed in 1 gear = 31.072 MPH
And changes into 2 gear at 3561 RPM Having dropped 2739 RPM
Top Speed in 2 gear = 54.973 MPH
And changes into 3 gear at 4306 RPM Having dropped 1994 RPM
Top Speed in 3 gear = 80.428 MPH
And changes into 4 gear at 4557 RPM Having dropped 1743 RPM
Top Speed in 4 gear = 111.182 MPH
And changes into 5 gear at 5166 RPM Having dropped 1134 RPM
Top Speed in 5 gear = 135.579 MPH
And changes into 6 gear at 5357 RPM Having dropped 943 RPM
Top Speed in 6 gear = 159.451 MPH



Gearbox:- F23 3.95 Final Drive
Tyre:- Standard VX220 Bridgestone


Top Gear gives 23.189 MPH/1000 RPM and a top speed of 146.088 MPH at 6300 RPM

Engine speeds in top gear:-
30 MPH = 1294 RPM 40 MPH = 1725 RPM 50 MPH = 2156 RPM 60 MPH = 2587 RPM
70 MPH = 3019 RPM 80 MPH = 3450 RPM 90 MPH = 3881 RPM 100 MPH = 4312 RPM

Top Speed in 1 gear = 33.053 MPH
And changes into 2 gear at 3555 RPM Having dropped 2745 RPM
Top Speed in 2 gear = 58.580 MPH
And changes into 3 gear at 4210 RPM Having dropped 2090 RPM
Top Speed in 3 gear = 87.653 MPH
And changes into 4 gear at 4573 RPM Having dropped 1727 RPM
Top Speed in 4 gear = 120.746 MPH
And changes into 5 gear at 5207 RPM Having dropped 1093 RPM
Top Speed in 5 gear = 146.088 MPH








If you need any more info please feel free to give me a call 01692404313

Cheers Jon

[leevx2.2]

I am Very tempted but i think my wife would me and bury me in the garden

[VIX]

Ask me again this time next year!

[Crazyfrog (Fab)]

I am Very tempted but i think my wife would me and bury me in the garden

after the xmass discussion she had with me i think you are pushing your luck lee

[PaulCP]

Jon, you have that nice workshop and no time to install it. Hopefully your car is still not just sat in the showroom Wish i was still in the UK sometimes (car related only) but at least being here in constant sunshine has some advantages.

[Lardaq23]

Hello, how does the drive ratio look like in comparison to the original turbo ratio? And is it plug and play with your kit, or do i still have to manufacture some parts on my own? What kind of clutch did you take ? I have 450Nm torque and am using a sinter clutch (in my F23) at the moment. Is it possible to use the old clutch? And is the arrangement of the gears correct? Many questions, but im seriously interested in the kit. Would you ship it to germany? best regards

[Jon]

Hello,

how does the drive ratio look like in comparison to the original turbo ratio?
And is it plug and play with your kit, or do i still have to manufacture some parts on my own?
What kind of clutch did you take ? I have 450Nm torque and am using a sinter clutch (in my F23) at the moment.
Is it possible to use the old clutch? And is the arrangement of the gears correct?

Many questions, but im seriously interested in the kit. Would you ship it to germany?

best regards

Hi you wont have to manufacture any parts everything is there. You mention the Turbo F23 ratio is this becuase you have a turbo? The reason I ask is because the box is a front starter motor for 2.2 not a rear starter as the turbo M32 though the best housing could be modded.

Heres the calcs


Gearbox:- M32 3.94FD
Tyre:- Standard B/stone
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Top Gear gives 25.310 MPH/1000 RPM and a top speed of 159.451 MPH at 6300 RPM

Engine speeds in top gear:-
30 MPH = 1185 RPM 40 MPH = 1580 RPM 50 MPH = 1976 RPM 60 MPH = 2371 RPM
70 MPH = 2766 RPM 80 MPH = 3161 RPM 90 MPH = 3556 RPM 100 MPH = 3951 RPM

Top Speed in 1 gear = 31.072 MPH
And changes into 2 gear at 3561 RPM dropping 2739 RPM
Top Speed in 2 gear = 54.973 MPH
And changes into 3 gear at 4306 RPM dropping 1994 RPM
Top Speed in 3 gear = 80.428 MPH
And changes into 4 gear at 4557 RPM dropping 1743 RPM
Top Speed in 4 gear = 111.182 MPH
And changes into 5 gear at 5166 RPM dropping 1134 RPM
Top Speed in 5 gear = 135.579 MPH
And changes into 6 gear at 5357 RPM dropping 943 RPM
Top Speed in 6 gear = 159.451 MPH
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Gearbox:- F23 3.63FD
Tyre:- Standard Bstone
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Top Gear gives 25.872 MPH/1000 RPM and a top speed of 162.990 MPH at 6300 RPM

Engine speeds in top gear:-
30 MPH = 1160 RPM 40 MPH = 1546 RPM 50 MPH = 1933 RPM 60 MPH = 2319 RPM
70 MPH = 2706 RPM 80 MPH = 3092 RPM 90 MPH = 3479 RPM 100 MPH = 3865 RPM

Top Speed in 1 gear = 35.967 MPH
And changes into 2 gear at 3555 RPM dropping 2745 RPM
Top Speed in 2 gear = 63.744 MPH
And changes into 3 gear at 4210 RPM dropping 2090 RPM
Top Speed in 3 gear = 95.380 MPH
And changes into 4 gear at 4527 RPM dropping 1773 RPM
Top Speed in 4 gear = 132.745 MPH
And changes into 5 gear at 5131 RPM dropping 1169 RPM
Top Speed in 5 gear = 162.990 MPH


I will have to put the graph up later if you need it or I can email it to you if you PM me your email yes I can ship to Germany no problem

Jon

Edited by Jon, 22 January 2010 - 06:55 PM.

[The Batman]

jon, tried ringing uyou today but it kept saying lines where busy give me a bell back when you get a chance and i will try again on monday unless you are around tomorrow? cheers

[Jon]

jon, tried ringing uyou today but it kept saying lines where busy

give me a bell back when you get a chance and i will try again on monday unless you are around tomorrow?

cheers

Hi Joe, not supposed to be in tomorrow but will give you a call if I swing by.

[Lardaq23]

Hello, yes, i´m driving a turbo. But i am also wondering, wether the transmission ratio is to short or not .S

[Duncan VXR]

Can't 100% confirm as I do not know the FD of mine (sure its the same) mine is a turbo and ratios are spot on only downside ifI guess is your a bit busier on the gears but I like that and makes long motorway a bit nicer I LOVE it a such a better box to work the the std 5 speed DG

[Crazyfrog (Fab)]

Can't 100% confirm as I do not know the FD of mine (sure its the same) mine is a turbo and ratios are spot on only downside ifI guess is your a bit busier on the gears but I like that and makes long motorway a bit nicer

I LOVE it a such a better box to work the than the std 5 speed

DG