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[zebwach]

On a more serious note Duncan, that sounds like a plan! If your possibly fitting it that quickly, I might give the Lincoln 10k a miss and go to the Midlands meet instead!

[Duncan VXR]

Well should have details on outstanding parts for the conversion and delivery times early this week. Just let me know what you prefer me to do DG Oh have 2 litres of the fancy gearbox oil in the garage so nothing needed for this week/weekend depending on box may flush it but will speak to Steve when he drops it off

Edited by Duncan VXR, 28 March 2011 - 02:08 PM.

[zebwach]

Well if the remaining parts arive before the end of the week, then we may as well get the lot bolted on and off to CMS for mapping. Woop Woop. I think im aloud to start getting excited again! I have been missing the VX so so so much with the rescent clear skies and crisp air if induction temps!

[zebwach]

Good news. Thanks to Duncans and Steves efforts, I now have a fully functioning and ran in VX. I have driven an array of exotica since last August ranging from Renault Megane convertibles to 1.6 Focus Ghias. I am pleased to report that the VX is MUCH faster in a straight line and round the corners. So, where I’m at compared with where I started: Arrow Rods Mahla Pistons Under Piston Cooling Up-rated Valve Springs 2bular exhaust (with cat unfortunately!(long story!)) Quaife ATB New F23 gear box I am guessing that the power will have risen from the 293bhp before to the low 300's. It certainly feels less restricted higher up the revs due to the larger exhaust. In fact, having been without it/not being able to give it billy big beans for so so long, it feels positively ballistic especially with the endless amounts of traction. I’m struggling to remember why I wanted any more power for the road. However, I'm sure ill get used to it and remember in no time! Parts that have been purchased and still require fitment along with mapping: Garret CMS Exhaust Manifold CMS Inlet Manifold Equal diameter inlet piping Larger injectors This will be happening at an unconfirmed later date this year once my bank balance has recovered and Duncan can stand to look at a VX with out spontaneously combusting. Plus I want to make the most of the summer whether and abuse it again for a little while, maybe even a track day or two. Zach

[Duncan VXR]

Good news. Thanks to Duncans and Steves efforts, I now have a fully functioning and ran in VX. I have driven an array of exotica since last August ranging from Renault Megane convertibles to 1.6 Focus Ghias. I am pleased to report that the VX is MUCH faster in a straight line and round the corners.

So, where I’m at compared with where I started:

Arrow Rods
Mahla Pistons
Under Piston Cooling
Up-rated Valve Springs
2bular exhaust (with cat unfortunately!(long story!))
Quaife ATB
New F23 gear box

I am guessing that the power will have risen from the 293bhp before to the low 300's. It certainly feels less restricted higher up the revs due to the larger exhaust. In fact, having been without it/not being able to give it billy big beans for so so long, it feels positively ballistic especially with the endless amounts of traction. I’m struggling to remember why I wanted any more power for the road. However, I'm sure ill get used to it and remember in no time!

Parts that have been purchased and still require fitment along with mapping:

Garret
CMS Exhaust Manifold
CMS Inlet Manifold
Equal diameter inlet piping
Larger injectors

This will be happening at an unconfirmed later date this year once my bank balance has recovered and Duncan can stand to look at a VX with out spontaneously combusting. Plus I want to make the most of the summer whether and abuse it again for a little while, maybe even a track day or two.

Zach

I can confirm the current setup is more than enough to work the diff and handling is spot on for the road, never driven a vx that drifts sooooo well. I love it!

[zebwach]

Apologies to all those that were waiting on my AET Turbo. Ill inform you first when I have a better idea of when it shall be available with the same priorities applying. Zach

[siztenboots]

I've heard some not good customer experiences with the K06 hybrid and turbo failures. Due to the companies involved and still ongoing problems its not possible to post up details.

[zebwach]

Interesting. Never had or heard of any problems myself. Cant be worse than the OEM one surely?

[Nev]

Zeb, have you had a chance to work out what you are going to do about the busted 2nd gearbox? Fingers crossed for you.

[zebwach]

Zeb, have you had a chance to work out what you are going to do about the busted 2nd gearbox?

Fingers crossed for you.

Just got back from a week away not thinking about the VX. Im starting to loose interest to be honest as its turning into a bit of a money pit which doesn't seem to work for more than 5 mins! I need to speak with a couple of people about getting the box off again and replaced.

For people that don't know, my recently fitted F23 box has exploded in exactly the same way and in the same milage (1500 ish) as my first one, rendering the car undrivable again. The only thing that I can imagine it to be is the Quaife exerting forces back up through the box for what ever reason. Does anyone know if this is even possible or a likely reason? If so I might throw the ATB in the bin and just stick to a standard box in a bid for some reliability!

Good news on your power runs and good to know that the clutch is taking it with no probs. At least I know I have plenty of head room in that department.

[zebwach]

I am in need of a fully working, low mileage F23 Gearbox. If anyone has one to sell or knows of one that is for sale, then please drop me a PM. Thank you, Zach

[steveboyslim]

Zeb, have you had a chance to work out what you are going to do about the busted 2nd gearbox?

Fingers crossed for you.

Just got back from a week away not thinking about the VX. Im starting to loose interest to be honest as its turning into a bit of a money pit which doesn't seem to work for more than 5 mins! I need to speak with a couple of people about getting the box off again and replaced.

For people that don't know, my recently fitted F23 box has exploded in exactly the same way and in the same milage (1500 ish) as my first one, rendering the car undrivable again. The only thing that I can imagine it to be is the Quaife exerting forces back up through the box for what ever reason. Does anyone know if this is even possible or a likely reason? If so I might throw the ATB in the bin and just stick to a standard box in a bid for some reliability!

Good news on your power runs and good to know that the clutch is taking it with no probs. At least I know I have plenty of head room in that department.

As I said on the phone, the Quaife diff is not your problem and will not influence the way the gears are selected and will not affect reliability of the syncromesh or gear selection.
As the gear selector turret was used from your old gearbox maybe that is the problem.

Steve

[zebwach]

Zeb, have you had a chance to work out what you are going to do about the busted 2nd gearbox?

Fingers crossed for you.

Just got back from a week away not thinking about the VX. Im starting to loose interest to be honest as its turning into a bit of a money pit which doesn't seem to work for more than 5 mins! I need to speak with a couple of people about getting the box off again and replaced.

For people that don't know, my recently fitted F23 box has exploded in exactly the same way and in the same milage (1500 ish) as my first one, rendering the car undrivable again. The only thing that I can imagine it to be is the Quaife exerting forces back up through the box for what ever reason. Does anyone know if this is even possible or a likely reason? If so I might throw the ATB in the bin and just stick to a standard box in a bid for some reliability!

Good news on your power runs and good to know that the clutch is taking it with no probs. At least I know I have plenty of head room in that department.

As I said on the phone, the Quaife diff is not your problem and will not influence the way the gears are selected and will not affect reliability of the syncromesh or gear selection.
As the gear selector turret was used from your old gearbox maybe that is the problem.

Steve

The gear changes were silky smooth for the first 1400 ish miles on the 2nd box with the selector turret from the 1st box. Are you suggsting the old turret could be causing premature failure of the syncromesh etc in the 2nd box?

[steveboyslim]

Zeb, have you had a chance to work out what you are going to do about the busted 2nd gearbox?

Fingers crossed for you.

Just got back from a week away not thinking about the VX. Im starting to loose interest to be honest as its turning into a bit of a money pit which doesn't seem to work for more than 5 mins! I need to speak with a couple of people about getting the box off again and replaced.

For people that don't know, my recently fitted F23 box has exploded in exactly the same way and in the same milage (1500 ish) as my first one, rendering the car undrivable again. The only thing that I can imagine it to be is the Quaife exerting forces back up through the box for what ever reason. Does anyone know if this is even possible or a likely reason? If so I might throw the ATB in the bin and just stick to a standard box in a bid for some reliability!

Good news on your power runs and good to know that the clutch is taking it with no probs. At least I know I have plenty of head room in that department.

As I said on the phone, the Quaife diff is not your problem and will not influence the way the gears are selected and will not affect reliability of the syncromesh or gear selection.
As the gear selector turret was used from your old gearbox maybe that is the problem.

Steve

The gear changes were silky smooth for the first 1400 ish miles on the 2nd box with the selector turret from the 1st box. Are you suggsting the old turret could be causing premature failure of the syncromesh etc in the 2nd box?

It could be possible.

Steve

[zebwach]

It finaly happened, she is back on the drive! I picked her up last weekend after she has finaly had all the hardware and the 3rd gearbox of the year fitted. I would just like to say that the hold ups and delays have not been anyones fault, just a ridiculously run of bad luck with gearbox's which has eaten considerably into deadlines and funds. It still has the stage 4 CMS map on, so I cant let her boost at all, but its still by far the funnest car I've driven all year, and last! unfortunatly thought, down to the incorrect map, it failed its MOT for emmisions yesterday. Ironic realy as it is the first time it has ever been through an MOT with a cat! The garage is going to warm her up a little more tomorow and try again though, so fingers crossed! Bloody 100cell's, I want my decat back! So, where am I? Recap. * fully rebuilt and balanced Forged engine * ATB Diff * Inlet/Exhaust manifolds * Garret turbo * Squeeky clean shiney working gearbox * uprated head bits * uprated wastegates * 2bular exhaust From all my gear box woes, the ceramic coated exhaust had to be pursponed till a later date. The origional plan was to have the car mapped at CMS, but due to my new found total lack of confidence in the F23 I have decided to go down the standalone management route so that the car can be mapped per gear. This means that the boost can be reduced in 1st and 2nd gear to protect the box and then squeeze every last drop out of the engine in all the other gears. If I had gone to CMS, I think I would have had the torque limited, which would have defeated the point realy. The pro's and cons for me of this application are as follows -: Pro's * Specific gear rmapping * No requirement for an AMM * Greater control of the engine, more sensors and safer * Launch control (dont think I will use it tbh) * Traction control (a very usefull safety net for me while I learn to drive again!) * Much better control of boost * Cable operated throttle and not drive by wire * Once the base map is loaded, I shall have full control over all settings via my laptop so no more costly trips to the garage in the future Con's * More expensive * I shall be without the car for 2-3 weeks while it is being installed and the custom wirering loom is made (not a biggy as I cycle to work) Before it goes for this, Duncan is going to fit his new sexy intake kit and hopefully do some back to back tests of it on the RR compared with standard and other intake systems. So now I have to decide where and how I want the power to be delivered including how to increment the power through the gears. I should have probably started with this, but a massive massive thankyou to the following people for making this all happen. * First and formost Duncan, This project realy wouldnt have happened if it wasnt for his knowledge and input. * John at RASP, by far the best garage that has worked on my car and at below average prices. A special thank you also for storing it for so long through the gear box delays. If you would like his address and phone number, then please PM me. He is based in Grimsby. * Steve, for building a silky smooth engine and adding some tastey extras at very good prices along the way! It still has to face the dyno and some propor power though, so I reserve the right to retract that statement if it blows up! * Back On Track, for rebuilding so many gearboxs! * CMS, for supplying the majority of the parts. * All other top forum members such as Nev and MrSimba for being on the end of the phone and making the forum what it is. Updates to follow shortly hopefully! Zach

[Duncan VXR]

Your more than welcome sir Looks like we can use the oe 2 wire abs sensors currently fitted for the traction control feed into the ecu which saves some further work lets get the base map work done 1st and then start playing with power delivery and looking at reduced boost in 1st gear and poss 2nd if you like. Also hopefully with have worked the pedal and tb for the conversion It's going to be a bit bloody good!!!! DG

[MrSimba]

Glad the gearbox eating monster will soon be out on the tarmac again Going to be interested to see what this makes when its finally mapped as I know everything else in in place for very immersive figures!

[zebwach]

She is back at the garage for an MOT retest, fingers crossed. It would be absolutly great news if the sensors in place could be used. I thought the main problem was that they are analogue and not digital though? MRSIMBA, the aim of the build was never for huge power figures, just maximum usable and driveable performance for the road + occasional track. The size of turbo that I have spec'd will limit power to 400bhp absolute tops I would imagine. Time will tell. Very very excited though!

[MrSimba]

'only' 400bhp...

[Duncan VXR]

I thought the main problem was that they are analogue and not digital though?


It was but it looks like there is a solution to convert the siginal that the ECU can read

DG